The how do I get banned? thread.

[Jason Manley]

This is a free site and open community. However, all mods and admins have ability to ban. It happens for many reasons but there is one thing in common with all who have been banned to date...they earned it.

After seeing a flood of new folks this year, we need to make a few things clear again.

Things not to do:

act abusively

spam posts

too much promotion and no contribution

giving mods or admins headaches, thus wasting their valuable time, during or after they make polite requests. polite discussion is always fine. insults and bad behavior earn the ban hammer.

causing mods to have to repeatedly remove garbage posts, rants, or stupidity, because the user does not think before they pushed submit.

piracy support or posting pirated materials

legal matters

and any other legit reason the admins or mods may come across

[l33t fl33t]

Ugh, why are legal matters in the list? Or is it referring to something specific?

[Brashen]

I say we make an example of offenders. We eat their meat,drink their blood and use their hair and nails to make paper for us.

[Dile_]

sticky this then :} people seem to forget.

[Incinerated]

sticky this then :} people seem to forget.

I vote for this to

[CGMonkey]

So no threads spamming a promotional offer for pirated software while harassing Davi?




.... Damn! -_-

[George Abraham]

Is it possible to get banned for art?

[Noah Bradley]

Oh, so that's how you do it.

I've been doing it all wrong I guess.

Obligatory smiley: ;)

[J Wilson]

Ugh, why are legal matters in the list? Or is it referring to something specific?

I'm guessing "legal matters" is a catch all for things that might open CA itself to legal action. I can't immediately think of any that don't fall under the piracy heading, but I'm sure there are many.

[Arshes Nei]

Ugh, why are legal matters in the list? Or is it referring to something specific?

As J Wilson said, it's not so much a discussion over "legal matters" but matters that may find CA in a bad position or liable.

I had banned a user condoning shoplifting and stealing of art supplies. I don't know if you call "stealing physical art supplies" piracy in the sense that people usually associate it with software.

[ArtZealot]

Is it possible to get banned for art?

don't be ridiculous!

[arttorney]

I thought it looked like this would boil down to two categories: 1. don't be immature, and 2. don't take undue advantage, but then I realized those two boil down to 1. don't be a jerk.

[Keeviin]

I also think this should be a sticky, because



piracy support or posting pirated materials


Yarrrr me hearties and me Somalia... :pirate:

I suppose this refers to filesharing and the use of cracks/keygens. It's not that obvious and an easy mistake to make, especially because different countries have different positions on the issue.

I do not support piracy here, just saying...

[Arshes Nei]

Late reply, but stickied with a nice Warning icon next to it :P

[OldJake666]

Arshes is a mod?

[Ilaekae]

Well, technically, she's a Rocker possibly. There haven't been any real Mods since the early 80s...

[Arshes Nei]

Reminds me, after my company finishes the move...I'll be definitely working on the sandbox version of the forums to see what fixes I can put in to kill more spambots.

I also want to see if it's ok to make a "sketchbook" icon that would sit in a user's postbit like how the AIM and other icons sit in them currently.

I also wanted to follow some other suggestions on improving the "Thanks" mod as a tracker.

...but I'm derailing here -_-;;; I am more fascinated with fixing up VBs to make them more efficient and workable for CA than anything else. I try to stay out of the other stuff as much as possible but, mostly I smite spambots on a daily basis.

[Peter Coene]

don't be ridiculous!

Actually, its a good question. Some art related to Loli/Hentai/porn fetishes could create legal concerns. If it does then where do we as a community draw the line and say "you can't post art of *this*"?

[kab]

Wasn't there a big argument over in the art discussion forum a while ago about that, concerning nude-drawings of underage models?

[Straight Edge Ryan]

So I guess this would be a bad time to promote my pirated jew hating program huh?...

[daestwen]

Actually, its a good question. Some art related to Loli/Hentai/porn fetishes could create legal concerns. If it does then where do we as a community draw the line and say "you can't post art of *this*"?

That would fall under "legal reasons" and not under "art", in that case, and would come down to the decision of the admin/mod in question.

[Peter Coene]

That would fall under "legal reasons" and not under "art", in that case, and would come down to the decision of the admin/mod in question.

It seems to me that "legal reasons" explains why their art isn't acceptable and may be an offence worthy of a ban, but in the end the person is still getting banned because of their art; more specifically the subject matter of their art.

So ArtZealot's "don't be rediculous" is not exactly spot on.

[OldJake666]

Out of curiosity, if one is banned from the forums are they also banned from events such as workshops?

[Bill]

Out of curiosity, if one is banned from the forums are they also banned from events such as workshops?

I think they're deported.

[KarylGilbertson]

I think they're deported.

Seeming as CA members come from all over the world, where do they deport them TO? Siberia?

[Sorknes]

Seeming as CA members come from all over the world, where do they deport them TO? Siberia?

A twodimensional plane where they are forever doomed to crit level 2 fanart of Sonic the Hedgehog and people channeling and soulbounding to fictional game characters.

[KEM720]

A twodimensional plane where they are forever doomed to crit level 2 fanart of Sonic the Hedgehog and people channeling and soulbounding to fictional game characters.

so in layman's terms, deviantArt

[Dredwalker]

How do you get banned for "too much promotion and not enough contribution"?

Better yet, can you explain what you mean by "too much promotion and not enough contribution"? and why it would seem negative on a free site?

[daestwen]

How do you get banned for "too much promotion and not enough contribution"?

Better yet, can you explain what you mean by "too much promotion and not enough contribution"? and why it would seem negative on a free site?

We've had a bunch of cases where people come on this site and post stuff where it is *this close* to spam. First few times we let it slide, but if someone ONLY posts stuff to pimp their site/project/etc, refuses to take crits on it, puts it in the wrong places, and doesn't even post art with it, then finally we decide it's more like spam and less like awesome and ban them.

Posting awesome art in the FF section will never do this to you, though. :P

Don't totally understand the 'why would it seem negative on a free site' question. Because it's basically really annoying-self advertising? Why it would make a difference between a free site and a pay site I'm not sure.

[Dredwalker]

We've had a bunch of cases where people come on this site and post stuff where it is *this close* to spam. First few times we let it slide, but if someone ONLY posts stuff to pimp their site/project/etc, refuses to take crits on it, puts it in the wrong places, and doesn't even post art with it, then finally we decide it's more like spam and less like awesome and ban them.

Posting awesome art in the FF section will never do this to you, though. :P

Don't totally understand the 'why would it seem negative on a free site' question. Because it's basically really annoying-self advertising? Why it would make a difference between a free site and a pay site I'm not sure.

Ah ok, I had a totally different picture of what that meant. :rocker: Now that I get it, my last question has no relevance to the rule. It makes sense now.

[arttorney]

Seeming as CA members come from all over the world, where do they deport them TO? Siberia?

I found it! http://www.theybannedme.com/

[WhizBang]

Simply put, this is a forum to help people. Wanna be a jerk? Go somewhere else. These guys host these forums just like they would host an event- come over to the party, drink too much or start abusing the other guests with your BS? You'll be asked to leave.

It's really no different than in real life.

[markdenis]

follow rules and regulation otherwise you are banned.

[Eveningkiss]

Oh, so that's how you do it.

I've been doing it all wrong I guess.

Obligatory smiley: ;)

Can I get banned for going brain dead when i post?

[George Abraham]

Anyone ever get banned for threadbombs?

[jakobweiq]

Some art related to Loli/Hentai/porn fetishes could create legal concerns. If it does then where do we as a community draw the line and say "you can't post art of *this*"?

art and porn is just a fine line of difference.. or watever is the proper phrase..

my take is that, since its internationally known that Loli/Hentai/porn is not desirable, lets just don't post pieces tat fall straight into the mentioned category..

[Jason Manley]

This morning I banned two ca members for inflammatory comments, non-constructive and destructive posting, and for breaking the rules in this thread. CA is in a no tolerance period where there will be no flaming or hate allowed. If we see it, we will ban. Permanently.

There are other sites like 4chan or deviantart where users can behave like that. This is not one of them. The mods and admin have full banning abiliity. I have been too tolerant as of late and the period of leniency toward those who break the rules of this forum is at an end.

[Zapp!]

Ha ha, that is a really scary avatar. I saw you call yourself the reincarnation of Chairman Mao in a thread yesterday (forgot which one), but I didn't think you really meant it. Anyway, I think its good that you are standing up for yourself a bit more, but I hope you won't be too harsh and ban for the smallest of reasons.

Also, why Kiss?

[Jason Manley]

Mao is pure Rock and Roll that's why!! lol. The other one had him with a gold chain and 3d glasses....but alas...this one suits me better I think. Ready to rock!!! Of course you are....you have a Dee Snyder avatar!!!

Yeah I got run over a bit by the crowd but the strong arm of the law has returned. :)


Jason

[Zapp!]

Yeah, we all wanna rock!

[TASmith]

I miss animal.

UPDATE: The animal is back! yes!

[George Abraham]

I can hear the drums in that avatar.

[jamieq]

are we allowed to sell art books on conceptart.org? I have a bunch of art books I need to get rid of, but don't want to break any rules on the board. If anyone could let me know I'd greatly appreciate it.
-jamie

[PeteJ]

don't be ridiculous!

Like let say some guy post a drawing of a middle finger

[Ilaekae]

No problem, as long as it's posted in the critique section so we can make fun of the guy's anatomy skillz...

[Arshes Nei]

Copyright infringement and plagiarism is another big no-no. Two members were banned for this. No matter how popular or "Famous" you think you are from publications. If you get caught stealing you can probably expect a permanent ban from the site:


http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201355

[Brian.May]

I say we make an example of offenders. We eat their meat,drink their blood and use their hair and nails to make paper for us.

I can make us soap from their fat as well :)

[Brian.May]

What amazes me is that this crap even still occurs.
All of it is common sense and just plain respectful usage of the site.
Then again nail meet hammer, too many people lack common sense and respect.

[Deepinonespersona]

If a person apologizes for their behavior would still be banned?

[Partisan]

so in layman's terms, deviantArt

:yayca:

I laughed so hard it hurt ! ^^

[TheGreekDollmaker]

:yayca:

I laughed so hard it hurt ! ^^

I laughed too until i realised the truth in that statement.

It may be my cynical mind but DA may be the dystopia of the Artistic world.

Hide yo paintings, hide yo acrylics, cuz they banning everyone around there.

[bigpanfish]

I agree that at this site being banned is deserved. I came from another very large artist forum and there it's politics all the way.

I was so pleased to find this forum. People respond to even new comers and tend to be honest and sincere.

And too I found that most here have a good knowledge of the subject.

[severalatoms]

hi! been asking to be banned for quite some time, as it seems to be the only way to escape the 'unknown sender' emails i receive. the unsubscribe link is a cruel joke. i love art--i'm an artist-- but i have zero respect for any newsletter that mails itself anonymously, with no escape plan. so please, ban me. my eyes are wide open; put one between them.
thanks, good luck, and get your morals straight,
severalatoms

[blogmatix]

Copyright infringement and plagiarism is another big no-no. Two members were banned for this.

What is the policy with regard to such things as portraits of celebrities, which are very often drawn using reference photos found on the web, but which are not necessarily in the public domain?

[emily g]

People understand that you have to look at reference to draw certain people like historical figures and celebrities. If the source is really recognizable, you should give credit.

[Scizzorhäns]

This might seem like a really stupid question, but I really don't wanna get banned, so I'm gonna ask before I do anything stupid.
So let's say I drew original fanart (I didn't copy an already published drawing) of a character from a manga series that I wanted critique on. As long I posted it noting that it was not my character but someone else's, could I get banned for that?

[Ilaekae]

Nope. Go for it.

[Scizzorhäns]

Nope. Go for it.

Sweet.:) Thanks!

[Arshes Nei]

I've been getting these recently but want to state - starting up alternate accounts because you're afraid of what you'll say on your regular account (ie disagreements political debates etc) not acceptable.

I've recently banned several members for starting up alternate accounts to do so. If you have something you want to say please say it to that member. You have the option of disagreeing in private too. If you're going to try to evade action by creating another account, you're just asking for a more permanent ban on all accounts affiliated with the alternate one.

I'm not referring to name changes. I'm referring to create account "X" because you want to argue with another user.

It's a resource waste too. With the growing number of members in the community keep in mind people may want to use a username that you're using just to start fights.

[Cogentesque]

Rules fully understood and I will endevour to avoid Mr Ban Hammer - thanks for the warning :)

[smurf808]

If I were to post another artist's work in this thread:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50389&page=23
without telling them, could that end up being a 'legal matter'?

(say, the artist sees his work in the thread and doesn't want it there, could my account be banned?)

[Arshes Nei]

To answer your question, for the most part no. Unless you're doing it to spite the artist or drag up drama, if you post a link (without claiming the art as your own of course) you won't get banned.

If the artist doesn't want it posted he can PM one of the admins or mods to just have the link removed.

[PaleBluePixel]

Do I get banned for asking silly questions in order to boost my initial post count, so that my serious posts in the feedback/critique section gets released from the "moderation"? A couple of posts have been in limbo for a day, I didn't realize how hard it was to prove that I am not a bot.

[Black Spot]

Asking silly questions will make the mods keep an eye on you. Posting art is the best thing you can do.

[Nemome]

Wouldn't this thread fit better in the "Support" section of the forum?
Wondering what it has to do with the lounge and so it's actually just one more sticky here.

[SmallPoly]

Hey guest I'm a newbie here but cant find the rule about signature.. so may i ask? when to put links on the signature?
I'm asking this because i don't want to get banned :D

hope i'll get some answer

If you are an artist, and post a link to your art-blog, DA page or sketchbook, or something else relevant, that should be totally fine in most cases.

If your links are to a company website completely unrelated to art, and the only reason you made your account is to spread those links, that is spam and is typically a ban-worthy offense.

[Black Spot]

Well, if you're an idiot like mia23 and have a signature to a seo web design company. it's going to be pretty automatic.

[SmallPoly]

Something about MIA's comments made me think "oh look, another spammer" even in the ones without sig links. I found it pretty funny that a spammer would basically ask if spamming was against the rules. It's like they've just been sitting around this whole time wondering why they keep getting banned, and it just finally occurred to them.