-ShawnYe vs Sammy-

[Sammy]

-Ceremonial Gunboat-


I'm starting out pretty wild and letting my hand dictate the universe that my gunboat dwells in.
The main focus I'd like in my design is something that a country would be proud to have as a figurehead vessil, something that would be perfect propaganda.

first round of thumbs/roughs ... lets bounce back some ideas Shawn ..

BUT ENOUGH TALK! HAVE AT YOU!!

http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/sketchdump/tdomethumbs1.jpg

[tyboogie]

oh snap! shawn you betta bring it BRAHH!! my man sammy doesnt play

son's bringin the pain on teh real in the 04' :p

[ShawnYe]

Wow, great thumbs sammy, you definitely got the functionality and form nailed, something I should work on. Here are some I worked out in my new sketchbook, trying to make it grand and epic. Will keep on working on it. :chug:

http://www.shawnye.com/images/ceremonial_gunboat_thumbs.jpg

[Aven]

This is going to be one really cool battle. We have all seen what you guys can do with these sorts of ships, so this will be one that i will be watching closely.

Both of your designs look really cool so far.

[Sammy]

Those are lookin' sweet Shawn, I like the whimsical feel you have goin'.. looks like I gotta crank it up a notch..

still workin' and contemplating my style..
http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/sketchdump/tdomethumbs2.jpg

[ShawnYe]

Killer thumbs you got, did I see a shrimp? hehe. I feel like picking a few to render and probably do a final illustration out of it.

http://www.shawnye.com/images/ceremonial_gunboat_thumbs2.jpg

[gallon]

this is one of the fights I'm gonna follow closely. I've been impressed by both of your work a lot lately (started to wander around different areas of CA , and I hope I have found the most of your posts, guys)

Good luck to both of you!

[Happy Camper]

Nice thumbs guys. On the second sheet sammy 5 & 7 totally rock. I think 7 would fit the theme perfectly with a little modifaction.

BTW are we allowed to rate threads for thunderdome 7?

[Sammy]

Wicked awesome shawn, you got some fine ones! My personal fav is the top of the middle (in the last post) ... very nice smooths and angles, and the whole sillouhette fits together nicely!

It will be awesome for you to have a huge illustration of something mechanical like this in your 'folio.

All these remind me very much of the Panzer dragoon seriese.. that's a good thing :D , not only is it my fav game, but the game opened my eyes to what concept-design is..
here's a link for inspiration http://moonapples.com/lagi/index.html

[ShawnYe]

I think I like your no.7, no2 and 1 most, really cool lots of interesting shapes.

BIG BIG thanks for that Panzar dragoon link. I knew they had some kick ass concept work behind the game. I just couldn’t find much of it on the net! I played it on Sega Saturn and totally enjoyed it, love the environment, it has a great mood! Now I know who to look for when I need to find stuffs like this. :)

[Aven]

A lot of your ship designs are really cool, so I don't even want to pick favs. I would love to see all of them done up nicely.

Cool Panzer Dragoon link Sammy. I always loved the art from the games (unfortuantely I never owned a Saaturn so I couldn't play the games then :(). Orta has made up for that though :D

Anyway back on topic... Cool designs. Waiting so so patiently...

[Sammy]

Aven, Orta was gorgious.. it was nice to see smilebit pull through with a new Panzer Dragoon...
But so few people got to experience Panzer Dragoon Saga, which was very amazing.. (Smilebit's most likely working on the next Panzer Dragoon RPG.. lets cross our fingers)

anyways, fleshed two of my fav designs.

http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/sketchdump/tdomethumbs3.jpg

[R_M]

go with #4 sammy!

[Sammy]

Yea, I think I'll go with 4...

still doin' more designs... I love this part of designing 'cause it's so fragile.. just chainge one thing and it's a new ship

http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/sketchdump/tdomethumbs4.jpg

[Atmospheria]

oh yea...people are working! keep it up shawn!... sammy shows more...you should do too....

[ShawnYe]

killer..., more thumbs.

http://www.shawnye.com/images/ceremonial_gunboat_thumbs5.jpg

http://www.shawnye.com/images/ceremonial_gunboat_thumbs6.jpg

[MindCandyMan]

These are great you guys...some sweet ideas!

[davi]

http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/haeckel/kunstformen/natur.html

'Index aller 100 Tafeln', then 'tafel ###' and then the links with Bildschirmauflösung next to them.

[liquidwerx]

Damn, this is gonna be a sweet battle... Good luck ya'll.


~M~

[LiL QoH]

oh my gawd I just I just died and goe to heaven! O_O *right click save as*

[Sammy]

Thanx Davi, That's my sculpture teacher's fav artist.

workin' on sail designs..
http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/sketchdump/tdomethumbs5.jpg

[ShawnYe]

More thumbs.

http://www.shawnye.com/images/ceremonial_gunboat_thumbs7.jpg

[brokencow]

really good looking stuff guys

[Sammy]

Design 'Freeze':

http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/sketchdump/T-domemarkerfinal.jpg

now it's time to bust out some paint!

[Bretton]

these concepts are fantastic :D and i love the topic you chose

sammy: your last design looks fantastic

[Happy Camper]

*drools* Shit! Sammy that last one rocks.

[Aven]

Damn you both :shakes fist: Because of you two, I have been spending more time playing Orta than working on my own pieces :p

Awesome pic Sammy. Is the final going to be larger than that though. I would love one of your ships as a wallpaper :D

[MindCandyMan]

awesome idea and awesome concepts...what more can you ask for...you guys kick serious butt

[Sammy]

Thanx guys, I'm a little frightened... haven't heard from ShawnYe in a while and I think he's loading his guns!

Aven, play Orta, destroy it, then play Gunvalkyrie, and destroy it. Smilebit rooolz, I can't wait to see what they have in the works next.
final wallpaper? ... can do, I'll make it Gi-fuckin-gantic.

[Aven]

Thanks Sammy :D Yeah I own both and JSRF. Sega in general rule :D Gun Valkerie was a cool idea, but the control system shit me to tears.

Anyway. Back on topic. All looks good :D Can't wait to see Shawn's next move...

[ShawnYe]

Sammy, that one is awesome, great sails!
I have not yet settled on any design, still fooling around doing roughs.

Playing with shapes.
http://www.shawnye.com/images/ceremonial_gunboat_thumbs8.jpg

[Sammy]

Your paint is gonna be really awesome if this is the direction you're headed. I really like the simple shape of the first image, and I love the angle of the last image with the tower in the background.

[Loga4]

Awesome designs,both!
This is already very interestig
``fight``!
Keep it up!

[ShawnYe]

Thanks Sammy, they are fun to do, I'm still not sure where I will head, still playing around with ideas. I'm will be busy for the next few weeks, so progress is going to be slower I guess. Can't wait to see your paint of that ship! :chug:

http://www.shawnye.com/images/ceremonial_gunboat_thumbs9.jpg

[Sammy]

Damn Shawn, you've like trippled your thumbnailin' skills! I need to sit down and try some digital thumbs like you.

Yea, I'm not gonna have much time commin' up so I wanted to go ahead and get the paint done.. it was fun.. but crashed on me a couple times!!!!! :bars:

I'd still like to do an ortho, and hell I might as well come up with more ships! I kinda like these greko-roman flying whomp-ass designs.

http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/sketchdump/boyancydeltasweb.jpg

[Aven]

:drool:

Sweet fuck dude. That loos very cool.

I now have a new wallpaper :D

[Atmospheria]

get rid off that huge,white, distracting title and it's superb

[Happy Camper]

That Rocks Sammy :chug:. Love the Color, lighting and the battle going in the background :D.

Great Thumbs too ShawnYe :D. This Battle rocks.

[Sammy]

Aven: heh, awesome I hope it makes a good backdrop ... I got larger versions if you need 'em

Atmospheria: Done and Done, thanx for the input I was worried about that.... just couldn't get it to work so I prolly shoulda' left it out.

Happy Camper: Thanx!

[ShawnYe]

Sammy, thanks, I tried to make the thumbs cleaner, the first few attempts were more like scribbles.

You did an awesome job. The elongated format really brings a cinematographic feel. I would shift the 3 ships at the back slightly. The straight line formation could be logical but feels a little awkward and scatter some smaller buildings around.

I find the ship is not standing out that much and it’s a little hard to judge the scale of the boat. probably because of too much usage of black and those details that can be found in your conceptual is not showing here especially the back of the boat which has some good elements in helping to show the proportions. The river has a very good way of bringing everything together, I like it the best.

Now thats a tough challenge to beat! I did more roughs yesterday.

http://www.shawnye.com/images/ceremonial_gunboat_thumbs10.jpg

http://www.shawnye.com/images/ceremonial_gunboat_thumbs11.jpg

[MGH]

Great stuff guys.
ShawnYe, are those digital?

[Aven]

That is a really cool pianting Shawn. You can always tell one of yours through your really nice use of reds.

The camera angle and scale is cool, but the ship needs a bit more colour variation. Maybe make the sails a different colour.

[Sammy]

I really like the sails on your ship man, like they're tryin' to hold in some force that's supporting the ship. The pencil integrated with digital, you pulled off really well.

Yea, I use too much dark on my images... The monitor I color on is VERY light, and just lately I've seen my images on other computers and was supprised how dark they are. I have a really hard time with values and color changes within a paint, how do you get it done sometimes? Do you do a black and white variation??

anyways, majestic paint as always Shawn :chug:

[Sammy]

still toyin' with the other design.. can't get it right.. somethin' about it isn't grabbing me..


http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/sketchdump/tdomethumbs8.jpg http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/sketchdump/tdomethumbs6.jpg

[Wart]

Have to say I really like that last one, Sammy, the greek style structure is a unique touch. Love it. This stuff is great, i've always loved floaty things. Anyway, just sharing my thoughts.

[Sammy]

I'm glad you guys like it :) sometimes it's hard to tell untill you show the designs to others... so I took another stab at it.

http://www.securevirtualpages.com/~sammyha/onlineforums/sketchdump/T-domemarkerfinal2.jpg

[ShawnYe]

Sammy, thanks, I'm very fond of that thumb at the center far right and the front of the ship has slightly more curves compare to the detailed version which makes it a little more appealing I find.

Sometimes, I do a B/W version to check if the focus is in place and get the tones right. I also used alot of help from the colour and contrast adjustment since I guess around a lot most of the time. Keep rocking!

MGH, yes all the colours are digital over the pencil sketches.

Aven, I never did realize I use that much red until now. I would probably use more colour variation for the ship if I'm going to take it further, thanks!

Thanks Happy Camper, glad you enjoy it.

edit: I was referring the the detailed version above this, this last one looks good!

[Dan Milligan]

Hey guys,

This thread is great to visit over and over again. keep going, don't stop. Love it.

Peace
Dan

[qstom]

wow... ** really nice works'''
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N

[tyboogie]

:bow: :rock::cool:

both of you guys are rockin

sammy--dont forget me when you get a good job in the industry:D

anda small small small crit--the shadow on teh top ornament on your final painting doesnt match with the object casting the shadow

your a ssssssuupasta btw

[ShawnYe]

Thanks guys. Finally get to spend my time on the T-dome again, heres some colour thumbs I did few days ago. Now it's only just a week left till the dateline, I better make it good or I'm toast. :bash:

http://www.shawnye.com/images/ceremonial_gunboat_thumbs14.jpg

[Sammy]

The middle left one is great, I like that long slinderness.

I hope you get some time 'cause I wanna see a mega fine paint of yours~!

[RickDMer]

I can't wait to see this shizzle. I expect wallpapers all around!

[ShawnYe]

Although I posted it in the final but I intend to work on it more.

http://www.shawnye.com/images/ceremonialgunboat_big.jpg

[tyboogie]

very nice shawn--great colors and design

im not sure about those twirly wings--not sure about their purpose

and the upper right hand corner is stark white triangle

overall very cool pic--nice atmosphere to it all

ty

[Sammy]

I love that piece shawn, one of my favorites of yours

[Kress]

Man I caught this thread pretty late :p Too bad, great execution from thumbs to final, values and color work man! Two huge thumbs up, I love the shape of the ship.