CHOW 116 :: The Brief, It is for the Reading

[daestwen]

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ROUND #116


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DESCRIPTION

Here they come!

The Host - Many things are described as "the Host", angelic choires, fae armies. One of the defining points of the Host is that on an individual level, they are also called "the Host". Research material can be found on wikipedia and monstropedia ( http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Sluagh sluagh means "host"). This is an open ended topic. "the Host" can be many differen things: Angels, Demons, Faerie creatures. Your job is to depict ONE of them.
Keywords:
Angel, Warrior Angel, Sluagh, Host. Sithra Akhra

Thanks to Studio Colrouphobia for the suggestion!

:right:REQUIRED:
CONCEPT ART SIDEBAR:
A little easier this time, just include one rough alternative version of the character, or the same character but of an alternate 'host' race.
No side bar, no poll.
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:right: FOLLOW THE TOPIC.

:right: POST YOUR FINAL IN THE FINALS THREAD.


:right: SAVE YOUR FILES IN THE FOLLOWING FORMAT. Chow##_Nickname
example: "CHOW#100_Oblio.jpg" ;)

:right: PLACE THE IMAGE IN A FRAME WITH YOUR NAME/TOPIC

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/ChowPics/frame.jpg
(you can add CA logo, etc).

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DEADLINE
WEDNESDAY, May 14th, 2008
The way the deadline works: if deadline is on a Sunday and your image is posted on that Sunday 23:59 your local time it's a good entry.
In fact - as long there is Sunday somewhere on the planet your entry is ok. I will make the poll sometimes Monday evening my time (GMT - 8 ) yet I'll have a look at the last entries.
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POST YOUR FINALS IN THE FINALS THREAD!

Remember to include your nickname in the filename.

About quality - as general rule: if your shapes and values are not decent - you are out. Watch proportions, perspective etc. we need perfectly readable shapes and coherent, consistent values.

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BE PROFESSIONAL - only finished and good quality entries will be taken to the poll. Oregano and Daestwen (yay!) will make the selection.
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[Miticis]

Is it safe to assume the "deadline" will be updated to reflect next sunday's date of May 11th instead of the already past May 4th?

Id like to participate, but if Im too late...well darn.

[daestwen]

Is it safe to assume the "deadline" will be updated to reflect next sunday's date of May 11th instead of the already past May 4th?

Id like to participate, but if Im too late...well darn.

Whoops!

Yes, you're right. :) Fixed.

[Terra_Jamez]

When i think of of a host i rather think of a normal person who is posessed by an evel demon or an alien parasite.

[Rouko]

I read the Merry Gentry novels so I think of it as a nightmarish creature.... we'll see how this goes, but it sounds like fun!

[madhatter106]

Mmmm I dunno - seems an awful lot like the Soul Collector CHOW from a year ago. At least in setup...especially since the requirement is to do only one of the group.

Maybe a more interesting turn would be to do three (or thereabouts) "different but similar" of the group? That way you can get the sense of the collective as well as see distinct differences within that collective group?

I'll shut up now before Teacher assigns more homework. ;)

[Miticis]

Thank you for the clarification Daestwen.

If I can carve out a bit of time, I'll try to submit.:lounge:

[daestwen]

Mmmm I dunno - seems an awful lot like the Soul Collector CHOW from a year ago. At least in setup...especially since the requirement is to do only one of the group.

Maybe a more interesting turn would be to do three (or thereabouts) "different but similar" of the group? That way you can get the sense of the collective as well as see distinct differences within that collective group?

I'll shut up now before Teacher assigns more homework. ;)

Hatter, we've got something really awesome in the works for next week, so we totally can't run overtime this week, hence only having to do one and an alternative in the sidebar.

[Lege1]

Tight topic! I'll see if I can get the hands on the clock tied behind it's back so I can have it. Oh no wait.....,
Mother work is calling..............................grrrrrrr

I'll try my best to participate in this one even if I don't get farther than the wip......................

[Senira]

I may do this one, but what is this mystical sidebar everyone is talking about?

[daestwen]

I may do this one, but what is this mystical sidebar everyone is talking about?

Read the brief again carefully and you'll see what we're talking about. ;)

If you want examples, take a look at the last few CHOWs.

[warrel]

This seems like a very personable topic. I'm really curios how everyone interrupts this topic.

[ArtFish]

for the side bar, when you say alternative version do you mean another character example of the 'host' or then the other option it says like the same character but say instead of a fae, a demon?

this seems like a really fun topic :] lets see if i can whip some time together...

[Rouko]

What does "alternate version" of the character mean? A different pose/accessories as a sidebar piece?

Edit: Someone above me just asked that! Sorry daestwen! ^^()

[Blaz]

Uhm, I cant open the link of monstropedia. It is asking me to save index.php.... hmm... Any ideas or im just a noob?

Seems like a nice topic, but Im not sure what is it exactly... eheh :bashful:

[Nightblue]

cool topic. I haven't really drawn undead before, so I think I might take the "dead spirit" approach if that's acceptable. Not keen on drawing angels or demons or faeries because I'm too brain-dead to think of anything that's not cliche.

[ryuloulou]

ok, I'm in
no way I am gonna miss this one
:)

[Dreoilin]

Sweeeet!! I saw this one in the suggestions thread and really wanted to do it. Ahhh I hope I make it this time (miserably failed the last two chows).

[kingkidd]

yeah im in on this.

[Faroresama]

Man I've been waiting to have time to do ChOW again and this is the perfect opportunity!

[Fllnfalcon]

Man I've been wanting to get in on the Chow wagon, and what a great one to start out with. can't wait to get to work on this one.

[VulgarDragon]

Was thinking of getting involved in CHOW...and saw this topic. Right up my alley! Now let's get chowin'.:medusachow:

P.S. Tried to do a search on "Sithra Akhra" but nothing came up. What is that?

[daestwen]

for the side bar, when you say alternative version do you mean another character example of the 'host' or then the other option it says like the same character but say instead of a fae, a demon?

this seems like a really fun topic :] lets see if i can whip some time together...

Either. If I wasn't clear, I'm not sure how much clearer I will be now, but:

Either, you can do just a different version of the one you're doing (so, for example, maybe different wings/costume, or the same character but as a separate race (so yes, fae to demon).

[tsujni]

***snip***
P.S. Tried to do a search on "Sithra Akhra" but nothing came up. What is that?


The Minions of Sitra Akhra

Sitra Akhra could be translated "the other side". Some philosophers believed that all things were created by and subject to God (including demons), but others wondered if the things which were so unspeakably evil had their origins in another realm outside of God's command, or at least if there was a place forsaken by God, or where the inhabitants had no respect for God at all. This produced the idea of Sitra Akhra, the closest I've seen to a classical Hell in the Christian sense, where the inhabitants are purely evil and have completely forsaken God, existing only to satisfy their perverted whims. The demon Samael (who is often equated with Satan) is sometimes said to live here. Any being from Sitra Akhra would be completely evil, malevolent, and very dangerous. from http://www.atomick.net/fayelevine/pk/demons/pk003.php

Daestwen - Since angels and demons can get quite strange looking and this is CHOW, do these have to be humanoid?

[Bendragon]

Sounds like a great topic! Ive already decided beforehand to take part in this one.

[daestwen]

Daestwen - Since angels and demons can get quite strange looking and this is CHOW, do these have to be humanoid?

Gods no. Where would be the fun in that? :)

That being said, if you go non-humanoid, remember they still have to read as a character. I love abstract angels, but since this is ChOW, we have to get *some* sort of personality and character traits from them... So you'll still want something that can portray emotion, but anyone who's seen a baby seal knows that you don't need to be humanoid for that. :)

[Eric Young]

I like this idea but to be clear, for example a host of demons. This is an engraving done in the 15th century Renaissance, would this be a good refrence for a "host" of demons?

[PaTXiNaKi]

wO! this one! I ll do my best on my first chow ^^

This is the sketch i did this afternoon while reading some of the info at Monstropedia.

He got a big soul this time

[ikuru]

If u havent seen it, this is a pretty kewl movie....
http://www.flashbig.se/FLASHBIG_bilder/01_the_host.jpg
Oh, it's a nice topic btw.

[daestwen]

;1751754']I like this idea but to be clear, for example a host of demons. This is an engraving done in the 15th century Renaissance, would this be a good refrence for a "host" of demons?

Yes, but you're only doing one of the group, plus a rough alternate version.

[naomiful]

Yeah Ikuru, that's a pretty good movie < 3

Yes and nice topic!

[ArtFish]

Either. If I wasn't clear, I'm not sure how much clearer I will be now, but:

Either, you can do just a different version of the one you're doing (so, for example, maybe different wings/costume, or the same character but as a separate race (so yes, fae to demon).


ya that helps, it was the first one i was a little bit unsure of what you meant, but that's what i thought :]
thanks for clearing it up

[allocco]

TTHESE ARE MY FIRST IDEA http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8436/scansione0007bp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8436/scansione0007bp7.90fc75f3e0.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=368&i=scansione0007bp7.jpg)

[Cloister]

If I have time, this is a warm-up... (otherwise I'll add a sidebar to this one later this week). Hopefully I'll have time though, to come up with something a little more original.

http://www.cloister.se/posted/cloister_host.jpg

[seba_boi]

Somehow I ended up reading about "The Wild Hunt" and thought they were some sort of demonic/angelic warriors who steals souls... Haha... Anywayz, I thought I should do some sort of faerie hunter... (BTW, she's carrying a spear to catch 'em souls since she's a hunter and all--yeah, cliche eh?)

http://i28.tinypic.com/2i74ls9.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/nq9tox.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/2mrgvux.jpg

I've given her a demon familiar as well.... Is my design too far off?....

[Southwick]

This little article could be fairyly useful.

http://www.sluaghsidhe.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=4

[OldJake666]

Demons in CHOW!!! :D I don't think I can pass this one up!

[Nerahla]

seba don't feel bad, I'm basing my character off the Fae as well, and The Great Hunt or Wild Hunt is quite "Host"-ful ;)

I'd show a wip, but it's way way too wip -- and since I don't draw well like all of you, that'd be shooting myself in the foot. So I'll just post my final when it's done.

I'd like to thank CHOW for re-awakening my inspiration to paint. It's been over two months and I was in despair.

[seba_boi]

seba don't feel bad, I'm basing my character off the Fae as well, and The Great Hunt or Wild Hunt is quite "Host"-ful ;)

I'd show a wip, but it's way way too wip -- and since I don't draw well like all of you, that'd be shooting myself in the foot. So I'll just post my final when it's done.

I'd like to thank CHOW for re-awakening my inspiration to paint. It's been over two months and I was in despair.

You should definitely post a WIP... But if you're too shy, I won't hold it against you... :) But yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one doing a Faerie.... Woot, go us!...

[bluebloodedpanda]

so here are some of my ideas I got down today I think I'll do the one with the three demons/fairies/ghosts? around him. I'm kinda all over the place, maybe I'll find a more solid direction I wana head into with this in the next couple of days.

[jpedro]

wont have much time this week, but i did some doodles tonight. quite like the idea of flying to a window...

[coldrum]

count me in

[tsujni]

Thanks, Daestwen I've been wanting to conceptualize Metatron for a while now.

wip - angelic host - Metatron

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh319/tsujni/chow115copy.jpg

[Arbu]

here's what i have in mind

[Rick-K]

tsujni- I'll be keeping an eye on yours. I like the direction your taking.

[Fractalbot]

Demons! Well, kind of...
I decided to draw the sluagh... alway pictured them as nasty creatures with wings, and mine took a turn for the insect-like. My favourites are 2 and 3 so far, but let me know what you think!

http://fractalbot.com/conceptartorg/Sketch01.jpg
http://fractalbot.com/conceptartorg/Sketch02.jpg
http://fractalbot.com/conceptartorg/sketch03.jpg
http://fractalbot.com/conceptartorg/sketch04.jpg

[VulgarDragon]

Been wanting to do my version of angel. Hopefully I will be able to finish it in time.

[CarolineBradley]

Wow I really want to participate!!!
I think I'll stick to my trad media seeing as my digi skills would make the majority of you cry in pity :D
After reading the brief I though of a fae turned bad, with net and gaff hook contraption to capture the souls...
I've had two sketches... hmm clothed or un clothed that is the question?

[CarolineBradley]

Ok I got a *tad* overexcited and sketched a bit more...
Crits are desperately needed before I lay down any ink!
I'll prolly use watercolours on this and ink the outlines...

This CHOW got me out of my lurking ways lol.

[tsujni]

CarolineBradley - nice sketch, however, I have two issues. One, her placement on the page has her head/feet too close to the edge for my liking. Two, the hook with the soul. It doesn't seem like she is manipulating the hook to extract the soul as much as the hook is extracting the soul as if by its presence alone. I'd recommend moving the soul upright, fastened to the hook near the neck with a look of terror at being snatched. Perhaps in a struggle to free itself. Think the soul snatch scene from 'the Chronicles of Riddick' or 'the Mummy (1999)', when Imhotep is dragged away by the charioteer. Both had good struggle/terror expressions.
Oh, and I think a Fae may have a disdain for clothing as being unnatural.

Fractalbot - I like number two best.


seba_boi - I like the first one's facial expression and the third's pose, except for her arm is off.

Cloister - lovely work! There is a interesting depth feel to it and I love the wings.

allocco - nice start, I love the top/left one with the cocked head.

bluebloodedpanda - the first one, makes me think that the sprites are ripping the flesh to get at the soul. It reminds me in a round about way of two ideas. One, the spirits/angels in the opening of the Ark scene in 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'. Two, the pose of the tormented reminds me of the cover illustration to an edition of Clive Barker's 'Hellbound Heart' (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0061002828/tripps). As I said, not exactly, in a round about way.

jpedro - I like the fish tail feet idea.

MCross Another angel! Sweet, Mets not all alone! A Seraph if I'm not mistaken.

Arbu - I must say, I've never been a fan of the ''floating torso' concept. That said, looking at yours with the multiple faces makes me think multiple torsos might strengthen the idea. This is just my personal views.

PaTXiNaKi - Welcome, I like the concept of a ratlike fae. The right leg seems a tad to large and the shadows are not following the contour of the dead body. If the soul container is the light source, more attention is needed to the arrangement of the shadows.

[skorpi]

great topic, I'll try it :)

[tsujni]

wip - working out color scheme

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh319/tsujni/chow115-fl1copy.jpg

[Adele]

bluebloodedpandai like the first and last one....especially the first one, ripping out the soul! It reminds me of the scene in 'Ghost'...and Raiders...nothing wrong with that!

Im going to give this one a go, did up some sketches...this will be my first CHOW

[Studio Colrouphobia]

Whoa,they picked my topic... now I'm going to have to do this week :yayca:

Blaz Here is a quick rundown of what it sais on that page:



SLUAGH
A horde of evil spirits who are after the souls of people on their deathbeds. Sometimes they were seen as sinners, or generally evil people who were welcome in neither heaven nor hell, nor in the Pagan Otherworld, who had also been rejected by the Pagan deities and the earth itself. Whichever the underlying belief, they are almost always depicted as troublesome and destructive. They were seen to fly in groups like flocks of birds, coming from the west, and were known to try to enter the house of a dying person in an effort to carry the soul away with them. West-facing windows were sometimes kept closed to keep them out. Some consider the Sluagh to also carry with them the souls of innocent people who were kidnapped by these destructive spirits.

Origin in Ireland
In Irish folklore, Sluagh were the spirits of dead sinners; sometimes the spirits of Pagan ancestors; usually troublesome and destructive.
They flew in groups like flocks of birds, coming from the west, and tried to enter a house where someone is dying to take the soul away with them. West-facing windows were sometimes kept closed to keep them out.
The Sluagh are considered to be an Irish manifestation of the Wild Hunt.


Origin in Scotland
In Scottish folklore the Sluagh were originally part of the Seelie Court, then they turned to sinners doomed to fly across the skies at midnight to kidnap travelers out late at night.
The Sluagh , also known as the Fairy Host were said to fly West in order to catch the soul of a dying man before it was shriven. This is the reason why at the beginning of the Twentieth Century in Scotland people began to close windows and doors overlooking the west side.


Just remember tha Sluagh are only one potential for this, just as much as any of the other suggested Hosts...

Original E - It's a good refference, but you need to make sure that there is only one character represented. The point of the topic is that it shouldn't be a repetition of the four brothers or the pirates ones. Just one character.


Tsujin - Thanks for posting that about the Sithra Akhra. That was the exact text I was thinking about when I added them into the topic description.

Daestwen - Thank you for picking my topic :D


All - This is very open ended, you want to do typical angelic being, thats just fine, you want to do something wild, thats just fine too... read the brief ;)

[Studio Colrouphobia]

Here's my first Wip.

I like the diversity right now, a bit too early to say much about anything but the sketching is good people.
Nice Metatron, and Seba_boi's drawings show some interesting ideas (read: variation)

Mine is going to be Sithra Akhra I think...might alter it later though, but here's the initial 1hr.

[curly]

I'm new to this forum but well..I want to take part at this too :) Seems to be a great fun here and so much inspiration.
So I've decided to go to angels directions, but I like the idea of spirit sinner - so I thought it can be combinable :batgirl: Here some first sketches :)
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9208/329915p443dd0.jpghttp://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9209/95929219zw3.jpg

[Cloister]

It might not be super-original, but this is my entry for the week... I'll add that side-thing before the poll...
Good luck, folks! :yayca:

http://www.cloister.se/posted/chow116a_cloister.jpg

[Studio Colrouphobia]

Updated with one more hour...not sure I will keep the collar, future will tell..
Like your new one Cloister.

[Sellis]

Go on then, i'll give it a shot.

Stu.

[Bendragon]

Daestwen, can the alternate version be a part of the main illustration itself? Or do we have to have a seperate sidebar?

[PaTXiNaKi]

More lineart for me! Dunno what to do with the dead body, i have change a bit the legs and the right arm.I cant wait to color it!!!!



Cloister - I like the colors u have used, Does it have ears? It looks a bit rigid
a bit more lineart for me.The last one is much better, the arms and face wowww i love it

Seba_boi - Love her faces, and specially the second pose, those helmet wings are great! ^^

bluebloodedpanda - wow, the last of ur pics remind me to resident evil's leaker, and a bit of doom3 beasts. The first one is nice too.

jpedro - the second from the left has nice face, very evil indeed.I like those big feet,they are like flippers.

tsujni - thanks for the crits,i have change a bit the draw, and will add start with colors soon.Ur draw looks like some kind of divine being.I cant wait to see more. :D

Arbu - where are their entrails? ogh! damm :o

Fractalbot - Nice concepts specially the first and the third ones.They all look .. u know ... like those insects that are waiting for the night to come for ya ^^ (those are soul addicts?)

MCross - Wow! Great armour there!I love the eyes of the pattern,The waist wing's perspective is a bit strange, in comparation with the upper ones.

CarolineBradley - Go for more sketchs, i like the last body, but the face is a bit wide?.Nice legs too.

Studio Colrouphobia - :o i love the colors , and that collar ^^ keep it!

curly - welcome! i like ur first one,it seems to be taking his soul from the mouth ^^ , nice ones

[Giorge]

Jeez i this one is going to be heavy ... cant wait to see the finalists :)

[tsabu]

hi everyone :) it gonna be my first CHOW - i think about changing some things in the detail of these sketch, maybe i will even more deform it?

[algenpfleger]

Holy shit, amazing stuff already from everyone!

Here's a very rough first idea.
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[Adele]

this is a screenshot of mine so far...not sure if ill get to finish it...this is my first chow attept.

[Arbu]

tsujni : i don't know why i made him with no legs at first but it is said that sluagh comes flying, so i must thought he doesnt need them xD plus i will add these litle flying helpers for him to fly so i have found a reason to not draw his legs.. also he is old and meanwhile his legs got cut off due to fightings and rottness xD

PaTXiNaKi : there, i covered his entrails xD


this is how im heading with the final design/pose

i dont know what to draw yet for theese little "wingy" guys that are lifting the host.. any ideas?

[Boolean]

I think this is the best collection of Chow entries I've seen in a long time!

[tsujni]

tsujni : i don't know why i made him with no legs at first but it is said that sluagh comes flying, so i must thought he doesnt need them xD plus i will add these litle flying helpers for him to fly so i have found a reason to not draw his legs.. also he is old and meanwhile his legs got cut off due to fightings and rottness xD

***snip***


this is how im heading with the final design/pose

i dont know what to draw yet for theese little "wingy" guys that are lifting the host.. any ideas?

I like this sketch! The inclusion of the flying things definitely strengthens the concept, IMHO. My suggestion for the 'flying things' make them beetles or scarabs.

[kingkidd]

nice stuff so far everybody...
arbu im really digging what you've got so far. cant wait to see if finished
seba_boi love the first illo
MCross wow, someone knows their armor!
Cloister holy lighting!

this is my sketch so far...a little more tame than the others, but just as ready to hunt your soul

[S.C. Watson]

still a rough - still have a way to go.

pencil.

[tsujni]

Oregano - love the tightness of your pencils.
kingkidd - cool

Metatron wip update

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh319/tsujni/chow115-fl4copy.jpg

[Arteater]

no time!
http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs25/i/2008/128/1/c/CHOW_116_by_arteaterproductions.jpg

[Ridz]

alright i decided to join in.
lets see if i actually finish this sucka, seeing as i never seem to!

so far i just played around a bit.

[Benjamen Christ]

great work all! i love the pencils from oregano and seba-boi! Sweet

christ

[vibhas_virwani]

amazing stuff here !!!! specially like cloister's piece ... !!!! brilliant

[ManaBurn]

Oregano How commited are you to that concept? The rendering is superb, but it's looking a hell of a lot like a rework of your sci fi alien concept. Maybe replace the Gieger skull with some apparatus or something.


A lot of strong efforts. Good work so far everyone. Not sure if I'm going to make the time for it, but here are some thumbs in case I do. I like parts of all three of them. Will probably try to frankenstein them together for a final concept. Anyone partial to one or the other?

I decided to go ahead and move foward with combining the three char ideas. I really want to try and work some of that tattered nightmare feeling from the wolf in but..... we'll see. A.D. anyone?

Coloured, and we'll see what I do with it from here. A background isn't likely lol. Going to have to hit this back later, and see what's up with the sidebar. Like am I covered because I thumbed out and combined three alts, or do I need to like reverse engineer this sucker to make an alt.

Bounced an amzing amount of lights off of things that probably just aren't noticable. Answered the question bothering me of how the hell does it's knees move. Tightened up the wrappings. Messed around with the tentacles since some appeared to be of very suspicious origin. brought the outside leg further out pushed the inside leg further in. Is it obvious that im going for a Host that is part of some greater group of hosts all chained together through endless realities and plains of existance? I hope so. lol

Felt like the wrapping had lost too much of it's pleathery look. And what the hell is it doing if it's not eating. I'll see how I like the changes after I get the hell away from it for the night.

Bounced an amzing amount of lights off of things that probably just aren't noticable. Answered the question bothering me of how the hell does it's knees move. Tightened up the wrappings. Messed around with the tentacles since some appeared to be of very suspicious origin. brought the outside leg further out pushed the inside leg further in. Is it obvious that im going for a Host that is part of some greater group of hosts all chained together through endless realities and plains of existance? I hope so. lol Considering adding some kind of cheez background but it's still not likely. Unless it is, then I will.

[Cloister]

Studio Col.., Patxinaki, kingkidd, vibhas virwani:
Thanks a lot for the nice feedback on my demon! :) :sungod:


Ridz: Your play looks very interesting.

tsujni: I'm very curious about where you'll take that entity.

oregano: The concept doesn't catch me, so far... but the hands especially are very well drawn.

kingkid: Nice drawing. Let's see what kind of colours and background you'll end up with. The figure is rather close to a normal human male, so the paint will make the character-concept to a large extent, I guess (and the piercings...of course).

Arbu: Looks interesting so far... I like the spidery scribbly line-work

Adele: It is special.

algenpfleger: Looks dramatic so far.

tsabu: Imo that figure would look better if she had longer and stronger legs. The head is very dominating, right now.

patxinaki: The front leg (his left) is righfully larger, but I think you've increased its size too far... imo the leg seems to be meters in front of the fellow. The soul-streak looks interesting.

fractalbot: I personally prefer nr 2, so far.

MCross: Nice armour-work. Watch the butt-end of the pole... it's not lining in with the rest of the spear.

Studio Col: Very disgusting and interesting face. Be careful to not give the armour-necklace-thing too much visual power. I think the face should remain the main centre of interest.

seba boi: Nice sketches. The female look very traditionally faerie... but I can't wait to see how that "razor-wheel" and the head-wings are turning out.

blueblodded panda: You seem to have no lack of ideas...

jpedro: Nice falling-flying motions


I know I didn't comment everyone's stuff... I couldn't find any more words of "interest" atm... sorry. :(

[Bendragon]

Heres what I have so far...

[S.C. Watson]

Oregano How commited are you to that concept? The rendering is superb, but it's looking a hell of a lot like a rework of your sci fi alien concept. Maybe replace the Gieger skull with some apparatus or something.

You're not meaning the one with "Master Chief" are you? (this one: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=210140&stc=1&d=1191094313)
Because I don't see the similiarity, unless you're talking about them being lanky freaks?

Point taken on the Gieger skull. I'm probably going to finish this one out, because *I* like him, even if nobody else does :ore:


The concept doesn't catch me, so far... but the hands especially are very well drawn.

Thanks :) - tho do you have any actual crits on him? I mean for example *why* he doesn't catch you? What's throwing the image for you?

Thanks for the feedback guys, I appreciate it!

All the best,
~Oreg.

[grenogs]

i just realised that this is project 16 and not 15. in my own haste and lack of concentration, i saw the words "read the brief" and so automaticly thought they were the same bief, and so just didn't even look at the project discription (AGAIN). Any chance we're going to go back to a simple heading again, yes i know obvious, direct word headed projects (the host, canibal bob, or the donkey who flew in a jet propelled hot air balloon) look so boring, but hey they have never failed so far. If it aint broken, don't try fixing it.

[S.C. Watson]

i just realised that this is project 16 and not 15. in my own haste and lack of concentration, i saw the words "read the brief" and so automaticly thought they were the same bief, and so just didn't even look at the project discription (AGAIN). Any chance we're going to go back to a simple heading again, yes i know obvious, direct word headed projects (the host, canibal bob, or the donkey who flew in a jet propelled hot air balloon) look so boring, but hey they have never failed so far. If it aint broken, don't try fixing it.

The main reason I've started shying away from including a summary in the title is because I want people to READ THE BRIEF - which hasn't been happening much in recent rounds.

If the title for this week was "CHOW 116 :: THE HOST" I promise you, someone would do a picture of someone in a tux or evening gown at a party. I swear to god - you so know it's true.

We'll go back to the standard here in a bit. But for now, I think it's important that we focus on reading the brief :geekg:

All the best,
~Oreg.

[skorpi]

first digital sketches, I hope I'll find the time to work it out.

[Cloister]

Oregano: I think it is mostly a matter of personal opinion.. which is why, I guess, I didn't add any constructive crits. The skeletal goblin-head...with an alien protrusion on the back... I don't know, but it feels very standard to me.
If I'm being hard on you, it is because I know you're good... The detail I do like is the highly placed and clearly defined nipples.

I know my own entry isn't that orignal, so by no means is this any comparative crit...
Anyway, as I said... this might all be a matter of taste...
Nice drawing, anyway!

[ManaBurn]

Oregano "Masterchief", lol, but yeah that's the one. It just made me recall it right away. As for actual Crits, your render of this is so superb it's hard to find any fault with it. Someone might be able to but not me. How bout some ultra anal observation then due to the fact your at the level you are as an artist. The right inside arm's skin appears loose and slippery, the outside left appears tight and shiny. If it's intended that they should be different you might want to push one of them further in it's direction so it doesn't appear inconsistent. Something seems off about the right inside shoulder aswell. It seems like that shoulder is small and flat and round while there are all these cool layers built up on the outside left arm. Again, it's not so different as that it seems intentional. You've obviousely got it scanned, I might be telling you something you already know but put it in photoshop and flip it horizontal and see what you see. Then you can go back to it on paper and render it the rest of the way out. I hope that's useful and not annoying.

As for the concept I think what's bothering me about it is that I want to see small articulating robotic appendages coming out of the back of the head sinisterly awaiting their chance to be used. Right now it's making me think contemplative vampire.

[MonkeYoakum]

Heres what I got so far

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[ManaBurn]

tsujni : i don't know why i made him with no legs at first but it is said that sluagh comes flying, so i must thought he doesnt need them xD plus i will add these litle flying helpers for him to fly so i have found a reason to not draw his legs.. also he is old and meanwhile his legs got cut off due to fightings and rottness xD

PaTXiNaKi : there, i covered his entrails xD


this is how im heading with the final design/pose

i dont know what to draw yet for theese little "wingy" guys that are lifting the host.. any ideas?

I think it would be cool if he were being carried by the most beutiful fantastic tiny butterflies you can imagine. What if they were really the host?

[tsujni]

wip, didn't quite like the 'cloud cap'.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh319/tsujni/chow115-fl6copy.jpg

Is it bad form to generate a new post for a wip, or should I edit my previous post[s]?

[MonkeYoakum]

update, crits greatly appreciated.

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FllnFalcon: I kind of dig what you have going on, different from everything else so far it seems. One crit would be that such a skinny little dude would probably have more bones protruding in different spots like the hips. cant wait to see the whole thing rendered out like his rediculously buff arm.

tsujni: I think that if there has been a significant change to the wip then make a new post. If its not to much change I tend to edit. But I am curious to hear what others stand points are. PS when I stare at your metatron i honestly feel a pull from inside. So I think that last update is working well, keep flushing it out, but dont render it so well that it harvests all of our inner beings. ... or do

[Fllnfalcon]

welll said I was going to participate. so here's a wip so far. just some color blocking. Not very happy with how it looks right now, but going to keep working on it.

heh feel a little outclassed here with all this amazing artwork. but whatever, push ahead push ahead.

[Shard]

meh i thought i'd give it a try..also wanted to do something like this for a while now but anyway
its supposed to be a Fylgia (http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Fylgia) or some kind of guardian demon..

awesome entires so far..

[ManaBurn]

Oh, if anyone is interested, Donato is in ImagineFX's last issue. Not sure if it's still the most recent anymore.

[Sorknes]

Well, I started to fiddle with it since I just needed "something" else today... Fiddle being the right word as I just added shit left and right and I'm still doing just that....

I have no idea if I'll finish though, I don't know where I'm going with it or if it really fits the brief, even if it's an angel that could be part of an angelic host... of goth. Or something.

[Blaz]

Here is mine.

I went for "dark-pixie-insect" kind of the host!

pencil version (had to fix proportions in PS so some parts are blurry and cut)

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9774/thehostpencilfixedforumyh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[PaTXiNaKi]

wow, a lot of stuff here!,today i was visiting the hospital,a surgical operation of my father in law.He's fine now.I have drawn nothing, but i ll give my hole next afternoon for this.

my opinion (and excuse my poor english)

tsabu - Try to do a more dinamic pose, its too rigid, i have allways the same problem and i used to think what is the pose i'm looking for, and how can it be drawn in a "realistic" way.Use some refs it ll help you.

algenpfleger - Is she seducing him?and in the other hand taking his soul?what a bia... ^^ With such girls ill give my soul without thinking.

Adele - The arms and legs can't be apreciated well, a bit long too.The hair needs to show movement,work a bit more that and it ll look than its ready flying. Nice soul-containers ^^

Arbu - Much better! i really love the look of that sluagh, and for the flying thing. What about the souls, with the shape of crows? or some bad bird? u know something etereal with any bird shape.

kingkidd - Nice clothes!, i cant see his left leg, maybe u need to show a bit more of it, or make the cloak adapt at his outline.

oregano - Wo!, i love the face and hand, the chest is a bit messy. Another thing, is the width of the neck or maybe are that small pectorals fault, but its a demon and ur desing!.Anyway its georgeus that detail with the pencils

Arteater - a demon and a poor guy :d that looks a bad ending for him ^^

Ridz - Love the "blue" girl pose, a lot.The other one is the soul?, it looks like a yin yan form. In my city there is a symbol like that form too is called the "lauburu" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauburu

ManaBurn - My favourite is the leach, Nice hair on the big one (the fourth).Maybe take care of the proportions of the body (if u want to make it a bit "realistic")

Bendragon- I think the outline is not well defined, but its a sketch and its normal.Waiting for more progress. I like the green/browns colors ^^

MonkeYoakum - I love the head, that mouth is big enough to eat a docen of souls!! yeah! also the skull like head. His right leg is short,look at the knees and the hip perspective.

Fllnfalcon - It reminds me that Resident Evils creatures!!, maybe u need to work more on the wings, the right one looks strange.

shardana - Wo! Nice expresion, what about trying a diferent perspective, i think it ll give an "extra" to that bigdemon.

Sorknes - Waiting for more! i like the wings ^^, also the colors u chose

Blaz - Wow! i cant say anything except woe!!!, love all ^^


Its bed time ^^ cya tomorrow

[Mae_Haftahurcha]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c148/dreamer286/host.jpg

My first CHOW and a first stab at Painter, or, well, the first, rough version of it. I'm thinking I'm going to add a little armor, maybe an ornate shinguard for the back leg and a shoulder piece, as well as have a the intestines hang out of the belly because I imagine it/them to be more gruesome than the current image shows. I'm also seriously considering scrapping the current wings and going for a sort of shivan thing with the bottom arms as bat-ish wings. Please critique away, especially if you can toss me any pointers regarding using Painter.

[mayk]

Nice work guys!

K.I.A.

[ManaBurn]

Pataxinaki The leach was my favorite too. I'm definitely pushing the limits of what a normal humans anatomy could or would do, intentionaly though. Thanks for taking the time to C.C. I appreciate it. I love seeing linework, since I hate doing it. I'm looking foward to seeing yours painted. Feels very japanese char influenced, and I dig on that.

Mae I like it so far. Painter is a bit crazy with the opacity on some of the brushes. I find if you want to glaze it helps to put a layer at around 45 percent and use it as a glaze layer. Feel free to ask if you need any info on painter. I'll try to make time. Welcome to CHOW!

[Rouko]

This is an hour wip... is it to boring and cliche? What do you guys think? Egg type skull with a bunch of little tentacles and one big "feeding" arm like the giant squid has but it has a needle in the end of it to suck out the soul with.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/rouko/CONCEPT%20ART/host1.jpg

I .... JUST realized this is kinda like a face hugger alien.... oh well. Time for new idea lol

[MonkeYoakum]

oh dear god, this session has crazy quality from everyone. Nice

Oreg: I like the "Read the brief" for that reason, but somthing more to distinguish which weeks chow is the current would be nice. Like the date or (old) or somthing I don't know. But swiching the wording around works fine by me too.

[Dreoilin]

Wow everybody's doing some crazy awesome shit this time around! Mine totally sucks lol. I'm just trying to loosen up and not stress though, so that's fine. This is meant to be a rough sketch to get some ideas going, but it might be a wip depending on my time this weekend. I'm going more towards the Host of Angels route.

[Quinn Simoes]

A WIP so far from me, very cool subject this week.

Really great concepts from everyone, and I just realized I have to do a side bar as well, so I hope I can squeeze this one in on time.

Quinn

[kingkidd]

hey thanks all!
Oregano forget what they say...i like where it's headed (is it holding your pencil box!?)
tsujni woah thats crazy. a little abstract for me, but it's really cool
Blaz awesome! reminds me of those spinny dragon toys, where you pulled the string and they flew around the room injuring everyone in a 50 ft radius. proportions still seem a little off though..she seems a bit squat, maybe she's leaning forward?
mayk i really like her head!

heres my initial color scheme. still needs the cloth work, and some pretty details. but this is what i'm thinking.

[seba_boi]

This is an hour wip... is it to boring and cliche? What do you guys think? Egg type skull with a bunch of little tentacles and one big "feeding" arm like the giant squid has but it has a needle in the end of it to suck out the soul with.

I .... JUST realized this is kinda like a face hugger alien.... oh well. Time for new idea lol
Plus, it must have some humanistic qualities/features to it or it is considered a COW entry and not CHOW... TSUJINI's piece seems to gracefully teeter near the border there, but somehow I feel his piece still retains some "human" insticts/intelligence/characteristics in his being... It's the hands... ;)


And I would love to give critiques to people here but most of the entries are demons and it's not my forte.... Me giving tips would be an insult in your part since I wouldn't know what I would be talking about... But I'm digging most of the entries!...

[Adele]

mayk all i can say is WOW. Its what i imagined if the Host wasnt more folk tale...and i really like the interesting head feature...great army man. its creepy too.

[blackrobin]

im going for the sluagh/host direction, theres still alot to fix, comments or crits will help alot
thx :)

[Rouko]

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsujni View Post
Daestwen - Since angels and demons can get quite strange looking and this is CHOW, do these have to be humanoid?


Gods no. Where would be the fun in that? :)

That being said, if you go non-humanoid, remember they still have to read as a character. I love abstract angels, but since this is ChOW, we have to get *some* sort of personality and character traits from them... So you'll still want something that can portray emotion, but anyone who's seen a baby seal knows that you don't need to be humanoid for that. :)

As long as I ad something to it to make it a character, not a breed, I think mines okay.... I just.... don't like it that much now.

[Adele]

okay, so this is what i have done so far...

[Wiggers]

Not sure if i will have time to do this.

Wild hunt fairies.

[Blaz]

Blaz awesome! reminds me of those spinny dragon toys, where you pulled the string and they flew around the room injuring everyone in a 50 ft radius. proportions still seem a little off though..she seems a bit squat, maybe she's leaning forward?

Yup, she is leaning forward. It will be more clear once I put some colours on. ;)

And great work everyone so far!

[MonkeYoakum]

Wiggers: I really like the idea driving that first one. I hope you find time to finish it out.


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[ashton]

http://studiopumpernickel.com/ash/2006-dailysketch/the-host.jpg
wip01
http://studiopumpernickel.com/ash/2006-dailysketch/the-host02.jpg
wip02

[Cloister]

It's been a while since I did any chow-ing... Is there supposed to be a final-thread saying 116 somewhere close by, or was that procedure erased... ???
(As in: Where do I post my final?)

Wiggers: I like your rightmost sketch a lot!

[Blaz]

Ok update, added colours. :)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3713/screenshotchow116sf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[curly]

More lineart for me! Dunno what to do with the dead body, i have change a bit the legs and the right arm.I cant wait to color it!!!!



Cloister - I like the colors u have used, Does it have ears? It looks a bit rigid
a bit more lineart for me.The last one is much better, the arms and face wowww i love it

Seba_boi - Love her faces, and specially the second pose, those helmet wings are great! ^^

bluebloodedpanda - wow, the last of ur pics remind me to resident evil's leaker, and a bit of doom3 beasts. The first one is nice too.

jpedro - the second from the left has nice face, very evil indeed.I like those big feet,they are like flippers.

tsujni - thanks for the crits,i have change a bit the draw, and will add start with colors soon.Ur draw looks like some kind of divine being.I cant wait to see more. :D

Arbu - where are their entrails? ogh! damm :o

Fractalbot - Nice concepts specially the first and the third ones.They all look .. u know ... like those insects that are waiting for the night to come for ya ^^ (those are soul addicts?)

MCross - Wow! Great armour there!I love the eyes of the pattern,The waist wing's perspective is a bit strange, in comparation with the upper ones.

CarolineBradley - Go for more sketchs, i like the last body, but the face is a bit wide?.Nice legs too.

Studio Colrouphobia - :o i love the colors , and that collar ^^ keep it!

curly - welcome! i like ur first one,it seems to be taking his soul from the mouth ^^ , nice ones
Thank you! ^_^ That's actually the idea - as I've read that those hosts stealing dying man soul. I love your linework.It's very inspiring - you make me feel lazy and not accurate :bashful:

[curly]

Damn!You're so inspiring. I feel myself so not daring and cowardly! :S But ufff..well.. I won't give up! I'll finish this
Here some progress
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9076/28852359cy5.jpg

[PaTXiNaKi]

I have been working on the colors, and this is a bit of progress.Im focusing on give good shadows first, and i ll add the lights later.

curly - go for it!!! ^^

Updated

[ManaBurn]

Patixnaki Save yourself a huge amount of time and just paint the whole thing Achromaticly. Greyscale it all shades of white to black then hit it with overlays for the color. Your work process will go sooo much faster.

[PaTXiNaKi]

Patixnaki Save yourself a huge amount of time and just paint the whole thing Achromaticly. Greyscale it all shades of white to black then hit it with overlays for the color. Your work process will go sooo much faster.

I have allways color this way, i give the pic some flat colors,i make some quick greyscales to see how the shadows will be, and start directly with the color,only using those steeps like a reference.

I have never used to make a refined greyscale, and after that use the overlays,maybe because i have never practice that method i dont find the colors i look for.

U know its hard to change the way u draw/color when u feel comfortable with it,but i ll try ur way and be sure i'll tell you the feelings ^^

Thanks a lot for the advice!!

[Jeremy]

I'm trying to work on my character developing skills here. It's hard, you have to be part fashion designer, you know? Anyway, the subject seemed so broad, I hope I didn't miss the mark.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/jeremyforson/SCS_Oj2M6RI/AAAAAAAAAMw/gKjMBQzfO4I/s800/final_post.jpg

[S.C. Watson]

It's been a while since I did any chow-ing... Is there supposed to be a final-thread saying 116 somewhere close by, or was that procedure erased... ???
(As in: Where do I post my final?)
hey Cloister,

I'll get that posted as soon as I get home from work today if Daestwen doesn't get to it before me :medusachow:

~Oreg. :ore:

[ManaBurn]

Patxinaki If you don't feel comfortable with it then don't fix what isn't broken. You can always do an effects layer in Photoshop and set the saturation to zero to check up on your values. I've been forcing myself to do an underpainting recently and it's been working for me, better then my usual hunt and peck saturation/value/hue method. As for the overlays you should check them out, their really cool for adding additional colors and variation. Photoshop overlays are the bomb really. Check out Jason Chan's quick sketch video to see some expert use of both overlays and grayscale.

Jeremy I like the outfit, but it's feeling a little bit like one of the village ninja from Naruto. Why not try pushing the char in the direction of something more otherworldly. Wings, horns, a head that pops off on a hinge to reveal a giant mouth, etc...

Oregano Forget the FB! I want to see some more of your sic WIP!

[curly]

PaTXiNaKi,can I ask you a stupid question..How do you pick your colors? Is it the method of painting or you just listening to your stomach? I'm having a tough time with colors..:^^;:

[ManaBurn]

Curly Here's some stuff that might help you help yourself. http://loserlunatic.deviantart.com/art/Value-Color-Wheel-and-Hue-Bar-64451937 There's also a book by Betty Edwards called "On Color" that helped me out when I started painting last June. If you look around Concept art there are available resources aswell, and Jason Manley is going to eventualy be releasing a DL vid on the subject.

[daestwen]

hey Cloister,

I'll get that posted as soon as I get home from work today if Daestwen doesn't get to it before me :medusachow:

~Oreg. :ore:

Done. :P

FINAL BURNING THREAD IS UP

[Bendragon]

Still got to finish the alternate version of the character, hes the guy on the right.

[S.C. Watson]

Done. :P

FINAL BURNING THREAD IS UP

ah, yes.

But linkages always helps :geekg:

link (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125460)

~Oreg.

[Pezz]

Just found this.. monstrously aweseome thread.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee236/berserkerp/Thehostcopy.jpg

Reminds me of why I stopped drawing for a while. Been real down on myself, and I just can't seem to break out of the same, annoying, stiff poses. I couldnt even make it look like he's walking. I'm so ticked. But I'll finish this tonight.

I can't foreshorten. I finally got biceps/triceps looking OK at least...

[ManaBurn]

Blackrobin I love that angle you chose. It's perfect for the interaction between a person and your host. Your not far enough along to really hit anything specific. It's a really strong start. If you want the face to be more human check the eye position in relation to the center. If your stylizing it then I like it as is.

[VulgarDragon]

Update:

I decided to go with a more dynamic pose...so I had to do some redrawing. Still need to go over and fix the wonky parts (wings, cloth, and the addition of the staff) and then do the final inking and coloring. Ah yes...and the alternate version. I'm really pushing it....:eyeloss:

[ManaBurn]

I've really lost all objectivity at this point. I keep painting and repainting the same parts at this point. Still have two days worth of time left to mess with it. I'm hoping I don't decide to just reconcept the whole thing.

Daestwen Sidebar question. Do my three original thumbs count as alternates to this one and cover the sidebar requirements, or should I be like drawing some extra things on this one as alternate? Do you want the sidebars posted with the finals?

Mcross I think your making the right call changing the pose up. Don't forget to leave time to do a sidebar.

[daestwen]

Daestwen Sidebar question. Do my three original thumbs count as alternates to this one and cover the sidebar requirements, or should I be like drawing some extra things on this one as alternate? Do you want the sidebars posted with the finals?

I went back in the thread to see what you were talking about (next time, link me :P ) and yeah, they look fine. They are alternatives, after all, doesn't matter if you drew them first or last. :P

And to re-itterate for everyone:

PLEASE POST THE SIDE BAR WITH YOUR FINAL OR YOU WON'T BE TAKEN TO POLL.

We let you guys off easy last time because you weren't used to the rule yet, but I *will* be cutting those who don't follow it this time, no matter how soft Oregano wants to go on you. :P

[ManaBurn]

Thanks Daestwen, I didn't even have the forethought to link it, sorry about that. Ended up making an alternate anyway just incase I'd need it. Tragicaly I think I like it better. :[

[Quinn Simoes]

An update, almost there, still need to get a side bar done...

Keep up the great work everybody!

[curly]

ManaBurn,thank you! I've already used the wheel but I'm not friendly with it yet *^_^*

[vibhas_virwani]

@PaTXiNaKi : i really like those colors !!! its taking shape now !! i like :D

[Daray]

awww this is something totally up my alley! Sad that I can't take part, I have my first interview in a month, so Im working on my portfolio instead :D

[Studio Colrouphobia]

So I got a bit of tweaking left, plus the sidebar... Not sure exactly how much more I will spend on it in time, but here is where I'm at right now.
Sidebar will be Alternative type of Host-same character.

[ManaBurn]

Curly NP, there aren't any stupid questions and I'm glad to help when I can. If you open up the color wheel in Photoshop or Painter you can use overlays over the value wheel to paint the color your working with and then just eyedrop it as needed. There's alot of things to consider when picking your color scheme, but any reading you can aquire on the subject of color theory will really go a long way to making you feel confident about what your painting. I'm really hoping they go foward with Jason Manley's color theory DL sooner then later. All the downloads and DVD's take for granted the aspect's of color theory that as profesionals they already have ingrained into them at Massive Black, and I'd love to hear his take on something so important.

Studio Colrouphobia I like the veiny skin on the chest. It may just be me but I'm having a really hard time telling if those are teeth and it's his mouth or if it's a scar or something. It may be obvious at reagular size and getting lost when you shrink it down, maybe just pop a tiny bit of highlighting in there to make it read better.

[tsujni]

Perhaps my final, I'll have to sleep on it.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh319/tsujni/chow116_tsujni.jpg

[curly]

I'm trying to learn whenever I can.
But for now it seems that it's time for practice and finding things by myself. I'm already disappointing myself though, but I'll keep painting more and more till I become satisfied with my coloring skills!Here's a little progress.
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/2554/20821076ye8.jpg

[MonkeYoakum]

I have a sidebar question, how finished do you want that piece, or can it be a sketch, sketch +values ect. I have taken up the habit of sleep deprivation to finish these :/

[S.C. Watson]

some sick work here guys.

[PaTXiNaKi]

More color for me :/ but as always i dont like very much >_< ill try later , i need some teamfortress to relax

[Wiggers]

Like yours a lot Oregano, getting my vote so far. Some lovely work all round.

[daestwen]

awww this is something totally up my alley! Sad that I can't take part, I have my first interview in a month, so Im working on my portfolio instead :D

You know.. ChOW entries always make good portfolio pieces... ;)

[The Whistler]

whoa, Blaz that's a cool sketch!

[Blaz]

Thx Whistler! :D

One question about side bar:
What does "alternative version of the host" actually mean? Do you mean for example if our host is demon the alternative must be angel or something? Or by alternative you mean alternative appearance of the one we drew?

[Jeremy]

ManaBurn: Naruto is after my time I'm afraid. I looked up some pictures and I think I see what you're talking about. It has a Ninja-like outfit that I didn't even realize when I drew it. Also, it seems the Characters in Naruto have the same high collar things.

[daestwen]

Thx Whistler! :D

One question about side bar:
What does "alternative version of the host" actually mean? Do you mean for example if our host is demon the alternative must be angel or something? Or by alternative you mean alternative appearance of the one we drew?

I think I answered this already, but I'll answer it again. It just means alternative version. Period. Whether that's doing a different race, or just a different outfit, is totally up to you. :P

AND FOR EVERYONE ELSE:

As you may have heard rumours, big things are in the works for next weeks ChOW, but in order to arrange everything properly, you officially have a deadline extension!

NEW DEADLINE IS 23:59 (11:59 P.M.) ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 14th.

[Quinn Simoes]

Cool, an extension.

Here's some WIP on the side bar portion...

[prepsage]

been awhile. just saw the extension. any c&c welcome. cheer.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5998/chow116prepsagehs9.jpg

[Tavarilyn]

So here's my slowly-forming entry. Haven't decided if I want to keep it pencil or not. I did get a new tablet but... no time to use it! -whine- ;}

Thoughts, comments, love it, hate it? Bring it on! :}

[Adele]

ooooh extended deadline for lucky late people...im so curious about this big chow coming up.
Jeremy I dont watch Naruto (im not an anime/manga person if thats what it is), but I really like your graphic style and the character looks pretty cool...nice and simple and the bag adds a "highland" (scottish) style to it. So far, yours is my favourite.
Quinn Simoesscary! wouldnt want that at the end of my light white tunnel!

[artdwx]

just finished up my entry here it is I went with the more fairy theme. the evil looking fairies live inside the host's stomach and exit from his mouth. hope you all enjoy it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/artdw2000/chow116.jpg

[Chate Noire]

artdwx - I really like yours. The colors are a little all over the place in my opinion, but the character is one of the few I've seen in this challenge that really reads like a character, instead of a generic (albeit nicely designed) creature/monster. I really think you should upload a bigger version if you have it.

[ManaBurn]

Oregano I love that thing! :) It's creepy as hell. Is that the sidebar?

Daestwen What a cool chance to mess with our alternates. Thanks for the extension.

Jeremy Yup, I already noticed the similarites, and regardless I like the design. I don't think the char looks like a ninja however. Just that it reminds me of that particular char design they use as ninjas on Naruto. None of those things are bad. Hell, even hellraiser had some high ass collars, and hellraiser outfits reminded me of dune still suits. I just think he looks too human. If you make him part of a "host" of demon warriors, or a "host" of angelic rebels then I don't think you'll be runing the risk of being off topic. That's really as easy as maybe adding, claws, wings, a tail, whatever you feel is up your alley.

Pat Don't fret, it's looking good to me man. Personaly I hate everything I paint about 5 minutes after I'm done, at least it will push you to keep trying to outdue yourself.

[MonkeYoakum]

Oooo! Extended deadline make me so happy! I'll update mine in the finals thread. Happy mothers day to me! (a man) and to all the moms in here ;)

[coldrum]

Here's my WIP..

[curly]

Any advice would be highly appreciated - I feel a bit eee...empty about this pic. I feel it lacks something..but I don't know what to do.. Maybe when I paint her wings it would be ok.
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3656/69473573vw0.jpg

[MonkeYoakum]

Sidebar
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[Bendragon]

No one answered my question yet! Can you include the alternate version and the main character design in the same piece as I have done or do you have to have a separate sidebar for it?
I dont want to be disqualified.
Good luck everyone!

[Studio Colrouphobia]

Posted my final in the Final Burning topic.
Great entries this week, just saw the extended time, cant work on mine during the week anyway, but it might bring more stuff to the polls...

[Blaz]

Ok almost finished, just the wings left and the sidebar. :blahblah:

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8278/screenshotcroppedev5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Wiggers]

An extended deadline? when was that decided? damn it i rush my piece out, i don't want to be a moaning git but i think you should stick to deadlines.

[S.C. Watson]

An extended deadline? when was that decided? damn it i rush my piece out, i don't want to be a moaning git but i think you should stick to deadlines.

When you see what's coming, you *might* understand.

Be afraid.

Be prepared.

Be excited.

BE THERE.

You.

Simply.

Have.

NO.

Idea.

~Oreg.

[Wiggers]

Look forward to it.

[curly]

Blaz ,this is just awesome! ^_^

[Sellis]

WIP....

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5840/hostwip1sx7.jpg

Stu

[nuru]

WiP....

updated

[Arbu]

Oregano are the weekly events going to mix themselfs up in some kind of big round?

at least both eow and chow are quite saying the same thing and deadlines are equal..

well but if it is not, it would be very fun to mix weekly events for at least one round!

[prepsage]

Curly: try expanding your canvas. Right now your wings are feeling forced in to the composition - they're forcing negative shapes to become more prominent than necessary. Either let them exit the frame or expand the frame. The placement of the wings don't seem to fit the perspective of the figure (if they're normal wings).

Paintover here
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/4069/69473573vw01wq4.jpg

[S.C. Watson]

Oregano are the weekly events going to mix themselfs up in some kind of big round?

at least both eow and chow are quite saying the same thing and deadlines are equal..

well but if it is not, it would be very fun to mix weekly events for at least one round!
Not really sure.

but whatever it is, it'll be deep.

~Oreg.

[Adele]

coldrum, thats your WIP! that is pretty awesome looking just how it is right now, I love the reds...looks like we may have a winner againnnnnnn.

[ManaBurn]

Coldrum That's pretty damn sweet.

[peter_john]

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whoah, sorry to creep in last minute! I cooked up some lesser industrial demons for everybody. They're pretty minor in the hierarchy of evil things and bound to some form of hardware.

[Undefeated]

WIP, currently in greyscale - may or may not stay that way.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/Undefeated/chow_116_wip.jpg

[ryuloulou]

I'm late on this chow, it's a good thing it finishes in two weeks.
But seeing the others' work I feel quite left behind.
My english is not perfect and I am scared I misunderstood the brief.
Anyway, I am working on a kind of soul stealer faerie.

http://stephaniehans.free.fr/angelofdeath2.jpg

[Daray]

You know.. ChOW entries always make good portfolio pieces... ;)

ok yes mum ;) I'll um... probably not finish this CHOW entry either on time :bashful:

Some good entries so far though must say. Im back home tonight and have some free time. I'll head off some crits and well get working :D

[Sorknes]

Since the deadline is extended I might get around to try to make something decent out of this. Maybe. :bashful:

[daestwen]

Ah, ryuloulou, I like that a lot. But just so you know, deadline is the 14th, which means this upcoming wednesday. :)

[curly]

prepsage ,Thank you so much. I don't really like the composition at your overpaintig, but I'll definitely change mine - I should play with it some more - if I have time. :teeth: I'm neglecting my studies
Here is another step. I think I'll extend it to the right and a little to the top
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5935/10ce5.jpg

[nuru]

Curly, I think extending the image like prepsage said has definately helped a lot, the only other thing I might suggest is that it looks like we might be able to see too much of her far wing ( I love the texture you've painted on there - its gorgeous) but I think the angle of it might be slightly off and maybe it's a bit too far forward and close to her head - I'm really sorry if someone has mentioned this already.
cant wait to see it finished :D

[curly]

Here,I've played with the wings..Damnit I have had to think of these things earlier..I'm planning to put some golden jewelry on her..So much work.I'm afraid I won't make it in time :xpld:
Nuru,thank you! yes the composition is much better :) I've spent quite a time on the texture of the wing, and (o,gosh!) I've got another one!!! :dead: But I'll finish it for sure and thank you so much for the help!
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5077/11ab9.jpg

[MonkeYoakum]

The wing texture looks great, but the wing closest to us looks like it should connect higher on her back if you compair it to the wing that is farther away. Good luck with the deadline, its looking great

[jpedro]

oh noes...i just realized that the deadline for this one isn't until wednesday. convinced i was really late, i was a little triggerhappy and already posted the image below in the finals thread. damn. comments still welcome, and apologies for the posting mess:
http://jpedro.250free.com/CHOW/CHOW116_jpedro.jpg

[ryuloulou]

daestwen wednesday is perfect, thx

[Blaz]

Ok im finished! :D



I rushed a bit, but im satisfied.

I went for fae/demon kind. My sidebar is male version of the kind.

PS. To Oregano and Daestwen: Is my sidebar alright? Im not sure if followed the rules. Would like to know so I can fix before I get disqualified. :bashful:
Thx!

[Arbu]

tsujni : I was thinking of beetles too but ManaBurn sugested something very intresting! i think i'll explore that possibility and make a "contrasted" ilustration with the ugly main guy and beautiful wingy fellas.. and in that way, they would defenetly be more reliable to be the host, insted the ugly guy. but i'm not counting them as a group, they are linked together, they are still part of the one character i'm designing. As it is requested on the chow's brief.

ManaBurn thats an awesome idea! read my comment to tsujni.

PaTXiNaKi that would be nice but then i would loose this conceptual "contrast" i made

tks all

i think i finished mine.. sugestions?

[ManaBurn]

Arbu Fun!

Ryuloulou That is already looking like a tight illustration. Very nice.

[nuru]

I always get half way and realise that theres so much more I should've done with it - wish the pose and shot angle was more interesting and evocative! Bah :)

[Daray]

Well as promised I've started off my sketch. I went for a completely different style to normal and I'm much more comfortable with this. Ignore the faff on the top left that's just doodles for poses ;) Went for the Fae type Host/Slaugh shes holding the soul in her little Jar of souly goodness! :sungod:

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[daestwen]

Yeah, Blaz, looks good. No worries. :)

[Studio Colrouphobia]

Arbu- don't forget the sidebar. Otherwise, Rock on!

[PaTXiNaKi]

Extended!! :o i rushed this morning to have this on time. Is it posible to update the final version of the "final burning" thread?

I love all of the draws u guys are showing ^^, they are so inspiring

[curly]

Nuru,lovely work on textures!I love it:)
Arbu,if it was photo I'd say it's overexposed.I'm not a great expert but maybe you should work on values on this one.Other then this - great concept ^_^
Daray,nise start! Way to go :)
I think I'm out guys - I've got to make some 3d tomorrow..and the day after I'm studying all day long.I'd rather prefer to finish it properly :) Next time I'll choose something simplier for myself :p

[S.C. Watson]

Extended!! :o i rushed this morning to have this on time. Is it posible to update the final version of the "final burning" thread?

Yes, please feel free to do so until the 15th.

Normally we'd make you suffer and force you keep what you have now, just out of spite, mind. But we've kind of got something marginally interesting coming up, so we'll just continue to make oblique comments about it until the 15th roles around.

:geekg:

[Lege1]

Had to post a little wip action here. You all are doing an awesome job.

Jpedro & Mayk: I really like your entrees!

[skorpi]

WIP: I hope I can finish it in time

[Daray]

Small update on the colours. Bit stuck. Its all a bit too blue right now, maybe will make the background some reddish tones before I stick some textures in there. I originally wanted to make it quite stylised but with the colours its loosing it :(

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[nuru]

I'm out
A meeting just came up unexpectedly, so I'm going to be chained to my sketchbook for the next three weeks. Best of luck everybody!

Ryu - love the way that's looking, really interested to see it finished.

Arbu - really liking your concept :D

jpedro - she's scary!! Like the way you've capture so much movement and action in the pose - I'm so bad at that

curley - shame you dont have time to finish, gl with your 3D

[Rodimus25]

Heres mine.

[ryuloulou]

Daray I like the composition, but you should be carefull with your anatomy. It looks a bit frail. You should at least suggest the hips under the dress wich is too flat.Hairs have the same kind of problems, they are too "generical", you have to put some identity in them.
for the colours, I suggest a visit to the bilibine's work (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Bilibin), it is always a good experience when you are going towards a flat-tint processing:)

[Daray]

ryuloulou- Thanks very much for the crits, really helping out. I wanted the fae too look quite frail itself, but looking back at it I can see some obvious flaws. Im not really sure what you mean with the hair part. Or if you meant hands? Sorry to bug you with questions too :P

And thanks very much for the link, thats the exact type of colouring I wanted to try! :D

[ryuloulou]

daray I really meant the hair :)
what I wanted to say is that they are juste like standing upright with no wheight nor move a bit like a hat.
If you look at Mucha's work (http://www.artcyclopedia.com/images/Mucha.jpg) (easy exemple, but always an excellent one), you will see that he uses the hair like a mass but it keeps it's "soul.


Sorry to bug you with questions too not a problem, it is the best way to learn. ;)

[Daray]

ryuloulou- aha! I see what you mean now! And my dear, you are simply a saint :D

[curly]

I don't know why I'm doing it..I guess my urge to paint was larger than me ^_^
I still can't make it in time, but my whole wip is here, so here is another step
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3452/12ga0.jpg

[Zachro]

I wish I could keep going with this and I probably will later but this is as far as it goes today.

Man, I need to work on painting cloth.
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[coldrum]

I think I'll call this done...

[kingkidd]

Zachro: nice job. cloth takes a lot of work to get right. but... i think it's chow 116 :wink:

[Zachro]

Whoops. thanks I'll change it.

[Daray]

Aww I feel like such a disappointment :(, but I'm going to pull out of this one. Main reason being, that I'm in love with creating this picture right now and I feel if I rush it, I wont get anywhere or learn anything. So I've opted to take my time with it instead :)

[Blaz]

Aww I feel like such a disappointment :(, but I'm going to pull out of this one. Main reason being, that I'm in love with creating this picture right now and I feel if I rush it, I wont get anywhere or learn anything. So I've opted to take my time with it instead :)

Aww too bad. :(

But you made a wise decision.
Rushing doesnt get you anything but a frustration. :teeth:


...except in olympics maybe...

[ryuloulou]

ok I've finished

I still wonder if I should change the sidebar for something more coherent with the kind of technique I am using.
http://stephaniehans.free.fr/sluagh.jpg

[tsujni]

beautiful work, ryuloulou, makes me think of Edvard Munch's work.. Good lookin :)

[ViDA]

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n7/vivivi_01/Host.jpg

Coldrum, love that thing man. Sidebar inc soon.

[Adele]

when does the voting start? :D

[daestwen]

Poll Is Up! (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125994)

[nirudafat]

Ok update, added colours. :)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3713/screenshotchow116sf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

dude i liked ur pencil sketch more...seems like ure waaaaaaaaaaaay beyond in ur traditional skill.......maybe u cud try rendering teh whole thing in pencil for the next round..

either ways...u doin good..

[StephenMReed]

when is the next chow going to start

[S.C. Watson]

when is the next chow going to start

If all goes well, Monday, June 30th, after poll for DEEP is posted.

If all does not go well, Tuesday July 1st, after poll for DEEP is posted.

~Oreg.

[Izi]

like nukes and stuff?

aw you're not really going to give us a month's extension are you...