Chow 106 :: The Lady Of Shalott

[S.C. Watson]

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii293/chowarchive/CHOW-LINES/CHOW-LINES-MEDUSA.jpg


ROUND #106

THE LADY OF SHALOTT
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DESCRIPTION
The Lady of Shalott

Try to keep it traditional - but feel free to be creative. So, to totally confuse you: try to keep within the parameters of the poem and character, but if you want to throw a twist on it, go for it.

Lord Tynnyson's Poem (http://charon.sfsu.edu/TENNYSON/TENNLADY.HTML)

Lady of Shalott by Donato Giancola (http://www.donatoart.com/gallery/elegy.html)

http://morgansmusings.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/lady-0of-shalott.jpg

http://www.pathguy.com/shalott5.jpg

http://www.victorianweb.org/art/illustration/whh/6.jpg

http://www.pathguy.com/shalott2.gif

Kind of a rough recording of Loreen McKennit's version. Best one I could find though. The video is pointless.
IyaRAu0s0Eg
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DEADLINE
SUNDAY, February 17th, 2008
The way the deadline works: if deadline is on a Sunday and your image is posted on that Sunday 23:59 your local time it's a good entry.
In fact - as long there is Sunday somewhere on the planet your entry is ok. I will make the poll sometimes Monday evening my time (GMT - 8 ) yet I'll have a look at the last entries.
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[PuppyKitten]

This is out of the box... I like! I'm gonna try hard to make time for this one.

[Lalilulelo]

Bitch in a boat, I'm on it. :P
j/k

[corspufo]

totally out of the box.

Lalilulelo: LOL

[Lalilulelo]

Try and keep it traditional he says.
Sigh....:painting:
Just for that...robot.

[Swan]

Oh great. Sure. Lady of Shallot. You had to throw that at me, huh?

I don't think I have the time...damn and double damn.

Hmm...who needs sleep anyway?

[OCL-R]

that's tuff, I need a bit more practice before a tackle stuff like that. I still need to figure this place out as it is.

[Ye Olde Badger]

Haha, I would be interested in seeing your robot rendition.

[Mirana]

This is so LAME, but I totally get a better vision of Lancelot for this. I'm a sucker for "dark curls" I guess...

[S.C. Watson]

Just a quick clarification: By way of traditional, I mean subject matter, setting, costume etc - not media.

[edit]Lalilulelo: I'm expecting that bitchbot in a boat from you now. :geekg:

Cheers,
~Oreg.

[Swan]

This is so LAME, but I totally get a better vision of Lancelot for this. I'm a sucker for "dark curls" I guess...

Seems to me you could concentrate on Lancelot while still keeping with the traditional theme of the piece. The description does give her a rather large scrying mirror, after all.

[Mirana]

Poor Oregano...keeps trying to keep us all on point...and then there are ROBOTS. ;)

Swan - Oh no, I realize...I just mean it's more important that I visualize the character that ACTUALLY has to be designed.

[Swan]

Mirana: Heh, well, Lord Tennyson does go on a bit about how pretty ol' Lance was, doesn't he?

But I look on that as good news, really. Since I don't recall he does much more than describe color of the Lady's dress, there's a lot of room to play with.

Maybe even enough room for....robots! Hmmm?

[Aly Fell]

I am half sick of shadows...

By the way Shane, she's not an onion. Shalott, not Shallot ;) (Sorry, shoot the pedant!)

I absolutely love the topic. Two of the 'Lady of Shalotts' by Waterhouse are framed prints on my wall at home. But she's a real victim. I mean, she just dies! No reason for it. Floats off down the river and drops dead, probably of melancholy or one of those other silly Victorian illnesses. I'm tempted to stick her in some armour and give her a sword! But I'm a bit concerned this topic is really going to be down to 'pretty pictures' as the 'concept' is already there.

A synopsis of the poem:

Tennyson's poem of "The Lady of Shalott" (text) relates the story of a woman cursed to remain inside a tower on Shalott, an island situated in the river which flows to Camelot. No others know of her existence, as her curse forbids her to leave the tower or to even look outside its windows. Instead, a large mirror within her chamber reflects the outside world, and she weaves a tapestry illustrating its wonders by means of the mirror's reflection. As the poem progresses, the Lady becomes increasingly aware of the love which abounds in the outside world, and she tires of her lonely existence in her tower, saying she is "half sick of shadows". Then seeing Sir Lancelot riding down to Camelot, the Lady leaves her loom to look down on him directly from her window, which immediately fulfills the curse. Her tapestry begins to unravel and the mirror cracks as she recognizes the consequences of her impulsive action. She flees her tower and finds a boat in the river which she marks with her name and loosens from its moorings. She dies before her boat reaches Camelot, where she would have finally found life and love, and Lancelot muses over the beauty of this unknown woman when the inhabitants find her body.

[Swan]

No joke. Actually, I think by proper Victorian sentiment she died of "forgetting her place." I mean, literally looking outside her narrow little world? The cheek! What a nervy little bitch, eh?

[Tydal]

This seems an intriguing topic, I guess it's time for the "mouse master" to get to work :P ....

[grenogs]

hey oregano, whats with all the good chow topics lately, now that i dont have the time to do any :(

[Tifaria]

Awesome. I'm going to make time for this one! :)

[mythril_golem]

I am half sick of shadows...

But I'm a bit concerned this topic is really going to be down to 'pretty pictures' as the 'concept' is already there.




i agree, won't all the entries look a bit too similar

[Lege1]

Very good topic. I am trying to figure out how I am going to do my layout.

Takin from Wikipedia:

"Some consider "The Lady of Shalott" to be representative of the dilemma that faces artists, writers, and musicians: to create work about and celebrating the world, or to enjoy the world by simply living in it."

>>>Talk about a "Catch 22",lol.

[grenogs]

i agree, won't all the entries look a bit too similar


i guess this is where perspective, angles and lighting comes into play. example-You could create 10 exact designs, but all with different lighting and mood, and they will all look totally different. From an illustration or even story board point of view this is a great way to discover how perspective and atmosphere can play a very important role in art, how do you create something thats already been done a thousand times but better.

if only i had the time, :(

[Swan]

Plus, the poem itself takes place in more than one location -- look at the paintings in the Lady's bower versus the one where she's on the river.

Almost ready to put up my first WIP. I don't normally expect to be quite so rabidly on the ball with these sorts of things, but I was caught conveniently in between jobs.

[mythril_golem]

yeah i just always thought of chow as being more about the character than doing an actual illustration

[Swan]

Well, I'm new here and I've never done one of these before, so maybe I don't really understand. It didn't really strike me as any different than the medusa CHOW, for example -- everyone knows what one of those looks like too.

The Lady of Shalott is a fairy lady in a white gown. I figure, do with that what you will, you know?

Anyway, here's my WIP on this. There's a lot of little things that need work (the left arm isn't reading the way I want it to, and the castle needs tons of clean-up) but I hear my alarm telling me I should be getting up, so maybe it's time to get some sleep. ;) I've of course given myself tricky lighting and shadow again (oh, how I love to hurt myself that way) so if anyone spots anything I missed, by all means let me know.

[mythril_golem]

well i think the medusa chow was a lot different to this but only because organo asked us specifically to keep it traditional this time around. it doesn't really bother me i was just voicing a thought, anyway great wip only gripe i have with it is that her corpsified pose doesnt look like she froze to death (assuming she's dead).

[daestwen]

In answer to the 'won't these all look the same' questions...

CHOW is ultimately about character briefs and concept. Just because your a concept artist, it doesn't mean that you won't have restrictions, and sometimes *really* heavy ones. Most of the time you simply wouldn't have the freedom that is normally given here in CHOW. Sometimes we have really open topics, and other times, like this week, they're more closed - it's still up to you to come with up with a kick ass way to concept her, and get across her story and character in a single image and design. So. Get to it. :P

[S.C. Watson]

By the way Shane, she's not an onion. Shalott, not Shallot ;)

I know not of what you speak, sir >:|

:P

[Verastegui]

Here's my rough sketch.

[Arbu]

I'll stick to the third thumb =)

[Phuzion]

This is one of my favorite stories from Arthurian Legend... however, I'm with Posh Spice on this one... it really does come down to pretty pictures. I suppose people could design some medieval (long before Victorian people!!!) dress, but really it's just finding reference and slapping it together at this point. And when I say pretty pictures, I mean illustrations. As long as they find some reference for a dress, and get the proper melancholy mood in the image, it's done. This, of course can be the danger of picking an "Historical" topic. In any case, very nice subject matter! Those are just my ¢0.02...

Cheers,
~d

[NARobles]

http://www.donatoart.com/paintings/elegyb.html

More inspiration. :)

[Joey-b]

dont think im in, to little time, sick, and a nice EOTW.. (so if i have time itll go there ) gl everyone


Ow and whats with the lady subjects??

evil genie lady
sungoddess and now this

ahh well i dont mind

[daestwen]

Ow and whats with the lady subjects??

evil genie lady
sungoddess and now this

ahh well i dont mind

What about the 4-boys-in-one topic? :P

[DeKal]

OREGANO - heres a super early wip..just wanna make sure this counts for 3/4...shes just gonna be wearing a white gown like in the poem so i figured i didnt need to showcase an entire costume design. ive got a decent concept in mind also..hope its cool.

[S.C. Watson]

DeKal, that works - go for it. Love the composition.

~Oreg.

[Aly Fell]

Dekal - great pose and composition, but I gotta say, what's happened to 'keep it traditional'? If we can go contemporary then that opens up a whole new bunch of possibilities...

[DeKal]

awesome..thanks oreg
posh - whats so contemporary?...they had weed back in those days...eh..maybe not the heels though..but im not straying too far.

[daestwen]

Dekal - great pose and composition, but I gotta say, what's happened to 'keep it traditional'? If we can go contemporary then that opens up a whole new bunch of possibilities...

Posh - just asked oreg, and he says you can go ahead...

I'm probably going to say that his 'traditional' is turning into a more vague idea than it originally seemed.... :P

[edit] he updated the brief, so. there you go. have fun. < 3

[Aly Fell]

awesome..thanks oreg
posh - whats so contemporary?...they had weed back in those days...eh..maybe not the heels though..but im not straying too far.

It's not a crit at you Dekal, at all. :) Just want to get the language straight. To me keep it traditional means like the classic medieval interpretation. But if we can go with an alternative 'feel' then that ain't 'traditional'!

Edit: Cheers Britt, that clears it up! Anyway here's my earlier doodles. The romantic muse, fluffy and drops dead at the drop of a hat, or big sword and armour and kicks Arthurian arse!

http://www.darkrising.co.uk/Stuff/ShallotRoughs.jpg

First colour pass. I'm going to try and work both of these up, but this one for now. The amateur dramatics version of the Lady of Shallot!

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/189/shallot1wipec6.jpg

Final image... I've gone for the Amateur Dramatic emoting 'Lady', circa 1968 Ladybird book feel (if you have clue what I’m talking about)! I forgot to upsize the resolution, so I did it at just over 1000 pixels wide... doh! The candles are nod to Waterhouse's version, as are the reeds. I’ve done the other one and I’ll put it in my sketchbook sometime.

For a step by step GIF click here, (maybe someone'll get something out of it):

>>STEP by STEP (http://www.darkrising.co.uk/Stuff/ShallotGIF400.gif)<<

http://www.darkrising.co.uk/Stuff/chow106_poshspice.jpg

[S.C. Watson]

Yeah - as Daestwen said, it's been opened up a bit. Let's see what we can do :)

Ciao,
~Oreg.

[dusty imp]

ok, now I'm lost >:|

[Sjouke]

Awesome topic. It sucks that I don't have too much time..

[S.C. Watson]

ok, now I'm lost >:|
Lady of Shalott, as you like it :P

[dusty imp]

This is one of my favorite stories from Arthurian Legend... however, I'm with Posh Spice on this one... it really does come down to pretty pictures. I suppose people could design some medieval (long before Victorian people!!!) dress, but really it's just finding reference and slapping it together at this point. And when I say pretty pictures, I mean illustrations. As long as they find some reference for a dress, and get the proper melancholy mood in the image, it's done. This, of course can be the danger of picking an "Historical" topic. In any case, very nice subject matter! Those are just my ¢0.02...

Cheers,
~d

On that note, not to sound like a cynical ass - bit isn't this always the case with chow entries based on a female character? Very few people go for ugly or unconventional with those, and the ones that seem to be favored are much more illustrations than they are character designs.

[dusty imp]

Lady of Shalott, as you like it :P

Sir, yes sir! :)

[mythril_golem]

thanks for opening it up

[bukakeface]

Is this just a lady on a boat that drowns? Theres no way in hell Im going to start reading long ass poems.

[DeKal]

posh - i know man..everythings cool..im sure your doing more thumbs as i type but outta those 2, the left composition is definately working better. i like the diagonal her body and dress are making.
bukakeface - then dont do the chow. the poem aint that long

[LeanneMGardner]

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I quite liked the poem =) Couple quick sketches. Let's see if I get this Chow done on time!

[ShockWave]

Is this just a lady on a boat that drowns? Theres no way in hell Im going to start reading long ass poems.

Then you will be missing the best part of these challenges. I spend usually one day just researching the character before I even lay the pencil to the paper. I know more about Inquisitors, Genies, and Japanese Goddesses than most people now because of the amount of research I do.

Not reading the poem before you draw is like painting a wall without primer.

And who knows, you might actually enjoy it.

[bukakeface]

Because of my Y chromosome I am unable to make sense of poems. So Ill just draw a girl in water and call her lady shalott

[ArtFish]

how come no ones drawn her out of the boat yet? lol weaving away

hoping to get a good start on this one :]

edit: scratch that, i see some out of the boaters ;)

[daestwen]

Here we goes. Time to bring some lesbian love to ChOW, 'Sir' Lancelot...

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[Aly Fell]

Love it Britt! Great linework. Can't help thinking 'The Lady's' thighs are fractionally short.

[Swan]

...only gripe i have with it is that her corpsified pose doesnt look like she froze to death (assuming she's dead).

That's probably because I did not imagine her cause of death as having literally been hypothermia. I was taking a "blood freezing in her veins = blood stops moving in her veins" interpretation.

Verastegui: Ah, feel the Mucha love (I'll avoid the pun.) Her left forearm is looking a little narrow. The hand itself is also in a really uncomfortable position to be bent at that angle if you want her palm down on the mirror. It's easier palm up, but then alas her hand is on backwards.

DeKal: what a great noir feel. Makes me think of a "Lady of Shalott" version of Chandler's "Lady in the Lake."

IssyLMG: So glad to see someone doing a pic of her weaving! Very cool.

Poshspice, I am totally loving the kick-ass Authurian babe, but suspect you may run into identification problems since she's starting to resemble another Authorian water-dwelling femme with a sword (what IS up with those legends and chicks in the water, anyway?) But whatever! I still like that idea a whole lot, although currently I have to agree that the left is a stronger composition right now.

Daestwen -- coolness (Plus, what Poshspice said.)

[HapaxLegomenon]

Finally got off my ass and actually started something. I've been meaning to do one of these for a while now.

[Jason Snair]

just started something...

[dusty imp]

daestwen - love the idea, although I wanted to point out that she seems to have her right foot on her left leg. A lot of good ideas here already, I better get to work.

[Tydal]

Here we goes. Time to bring some lesbian love to ChOW, 'Sir' Lancelot...

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...Not that I'm a homophobe and I love what you've come up with, but isn't making them lesbians just a means of pleasuring yourself -.- ? I call that pushing it a little :P....that is if you're a man...or a lesbian....eh i'll shutup now, way too many dots....

On another note, I'm really liking what people have come up with already, and Posh, go with the first one.

[S.C. Watson]

...Not that I'm a homophobe and I love what you've come up with, but isn't making them lesbians just a means of pleasuring yourself -.- ? I call that pushing it a little :P....that is if you're a man...or a lesbian....eh i'll shutup now, way too many dots....

I think that is quite enough.

Any more crap like that from *anyone* and they're banned.

CA is an open forum which means that you are going to run into other ways of living. If you don't agree with it, that's fine. But keep it to yourself and be respectful of other's lifestyles and ideologies.

Comments like that are not tolerated on CA, and especially not in CHOW.

~Oreg.

[daestwen]

...Not that I'm a homophobe and I love what you've come up with, but isn't making them lesbians just a means of pleasuring yourself -.- ? I call that pushing it a little :P....that is if you're a man...or a lesbian....eh i'll shutup now, way too many dots....

(for the record i'm female and basically bisexual, so)

ahm... I don't really see it that way. :/ I mean, unless heterosexual people get off on drawing heterosexual couples... I'd see your point if they were doing anything sexual, but...

[ryuloulou]

my first rough

I'm looking for something very pré-raphaelite (does this word exist in english?)

http://hansstephanie.free.fr/ashlott.jpg

[Flake]

I'm looking for something very pré-raphaelite (does this word exist in english?)


The Pre-Raphaelites and their followers were an almost entirely English art movement, so yes, it does. :)

[LeanneMGardner]

Shalott Colour Sketch, man am I wishing that I could do this digitally :(
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[Lege1]

Some great entries so far on here and I am glad to see that the criteria for the image has expanded. I am slowly simmering something up....but first........
homework the main course ( dum dum dum) =P Can't wait to get in to some dessert here =)

[zephyri]

Daestwen, I love that twist on it, somehow makes the whole concept more touching.
DeKal.. will you be leaving that lovely blank space in there too? Only crit I'd have is that she doesn't look like someone who's just broken a curse and is petrified of something bad happening to her, but then maybe she's past that stage and in denial? Ehehe either way I love the sketch!
Aly, I really like the first one, her pose and expression tell much more of a story, and the 3/4 view is less styled. The one on the right reminds me of the piece you have on the banner of you CGTalk portfolio.

I swore I'd leave off digital this week to get some traditional work done, but seeing this work is making that damned hard to resist!

[DeKal]

lege - cant wait to see what you conjur up for this one.
zeph - na shes not petrified after sparking up that spliff she rolled for the cruise over to camelot. :)

heres where im at. as soon as i posted this i noticed it kinda looks like her foot is about to hit that tree. what do you all think? any other comments on the environment or anything would be appreciated. im gonna make a misty forest. i noticed in the poem it said pale yellow woods..so thats what im going for.

[StephenMReed]

I dont think that the whole poem has to be melancholy.
deffinately the overall tone is but there is one moment of happiness
when she looks out at Lancelot and breaks the curse. Perhaps she is even smitten with the knight.
I read the poem in highschool and remember almost nothing about it. I am basing my interpretation cheifly on posh spice's synopsis but here it is the W.i.P. i am not sure i will have time to finish it.
From her tower the Lady Shalott looks out at Lancelot and breaks the curse. Happiness at last is within her grasp if only for a moment. All the higher from which to fall when it is snatched away. always more tragic when they seem to get what they want only to have it snatched away at the last moment. Poor Lady Shalott.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/smreed/shalott.jpg

[Lege1]

Dekal: Your work so far is looking smashing. I am absolutely loving it bro. I am not too sure what I'd like to get in to on this one. I am very anxious to start already but just waiting for permission from the clock,lol.

StephenMReed: Awesome work as well. I love the black and white paintings progress so far. I am very much so in admiration of the lighting on your figure. I can't wait to see this image colored, but if you even wanted to keep it in black and white it would all be fine by me.

[Swan]

update with some refinements.

I think I'm going to put this away for a few days while I work on other projects, and then I can come back to it fresh before the weekend.

You know now that this has been opened up, I kind of regret jumping the gun (although heh, it was when I had free time, so no regrets.) Specifically, since the poem mentions two statements about the Lady's description (i.e. white dress, lovely face) I find myself wondering if in fact the appearance of the rest of her was what made the people who found her "cross themselves for fear." Why...just think of the possibilities.

[DeKal]

shes juuuust gonna miss the tree..right?

[Swan]

Yeah, I think that did it. Assuming (and I think this is a very safe assumption) that you render the tree to bring it a little closer, I'd say it'll work perfect.

Plus, this is compositionally just a bit stronger too. Bonus!

[Tydal]

I think that is quite enough.

Any more crap like that from *anyone* and they're banned.

CA is an open forum which means that you are going to run into other ways of living. If you don't agree with it, that's fine. But keep it to yourself and be respectful of other's lifestyles and ideologies.

Comments like that are not tolerated on CA, and especially not in CHOW.

~Oreg.

Eeeek! I'm so sorry! I don't know what to say :S but just so you know it didn't mean to offend anyone and I didn't realise it was taking personal life into matter to. It was late at night when I posted that so I obviously had no idea what I was writing. Daestwen, just so you know, I do not mind how you live your life (not that you should care what I think, which hopefully you don't) and it is not for me to intrude. Oreg you're completely right and quite frankly I'm so ashamed of myself I might just chuck this account. Although I would like to keep it, it's obvious that I have a lot of apologising to do. I really hope you understand and perhaps forgive me when you see fit.
And btw, I'm not trying to dig myself out of the pit to hell I've just burried myself in, I'm genuinely sorry, and it definitely wont happen again.

Thankyou very much if you took the time to read my babble :)
Tydal

p.s. I would nevaaarrrr try and harm my place here at CA!!!:yayca:

[Kerberos]

Dekal, maybe she is just using the trees for momentum? If you angled her foot a little it would look like she was using the tree to push her boat out of the way. Or I suppose she doesn't have to be moving at all.

[cakeypigdog]

nice posh, like the first thumb lots
alice: the castle reflection in the water works well: great composition.

[Swan]

*looks around*

Alice?

[Tydal]

Not that I'm going with this but I just thought it put a nice spin on "traditional :D" ofcourse the anatomy (especially on the face) is all wrong but it's the thought that counts :P the chav of shalott.


http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j194/Soulflay/chavott.jpg

P.S. you'll probs only get this if you're english...

[cakeypigdog]

sorry swan!!! not sure what my feeble mind was doing there!! i did indeed mean you! top stuff.

[d37hb01]

Lalilulelo - see The Shivaree's entry for last ChOW

[Arbu]

shes juuuust gonna miss the tree..right?



DeKal : in my opinion, that tree is cutting a litle feeling of the scene...
bring it closer to the left edge of the image, giving more space between her foot and the tree's edge and also allowing us to view a bit more of that boat and the river/background. i think it would be better that way

[m8y]

Awesome stuff here already as per usual.
Going for a somber kind of mood with this, she has accepted her fate almost. Still she plays with the water like a child experiencing the world for the first time. Critiques/Comments?

sketch
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii183/ginjah2/chow106sketch.jpg

wip update 2
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii183/ginjah2/chow106wip3.jpg

[LeanneMGardner]

Onwards to canvas =)

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[daestwen]

Issy: Before you go any further, I thought I'd drop you a crit. Your current pose looked really akward, so I stood up and tried to do what she's doing. It was really hard. It's too twisted - if i stood with my legs apart like that, my chest naturally twists to the opposite side than the one you have portrayed there. Turning the way she does takes the balance off my weighted leg and leaves me *really* wobbly. There's basically no reason for her limbs to be placed the way they are.

If you want to come up with an interesting pose, make sure to stand up and actually try it out, and that it makes sense and that you can do it to. This is a mistake i've made a hundred times - the poses always end up looking wonky otherwise.

[ryuloulou]

second wip.

http://hansstephanie.free.fr/ashlottwip.jpg

[DigitallyDumbfounded]

So, ok, I'm usually doing some of the activities here but never post them, so this time... I'm getting over myself :$
I was thinking, if the only hobby and general thing to do AT ALL is weaving the place might get quite crowded after a while. Uhm, not sure how much this goes with the original story. Apart from that, who would have guessed that a weaving chair is such a complicated thing, aargh!
Oh well.
Dang. IssyLMG had the weaving chair idea too. ;p
Looks interesting.
Swan: I love this! The compositon is just beautiful.
And Daestwen: Character interaction!! That's the only pic I've seen so far showing this and Lady Lances expression is really going to heart.
So, here goes.

[Benjamen Christ]

Wow , theres been some great topics. ive been really busy, but i might have to jump in on this one. Great work guys!

Christ

[Joey-b]

DeKal - with some atmosperic perspect u can have her miss the tree hehe, or maybe just add a small branch?(wich would totally ruin it.. shut me up plz)

loving it so far btw

Swan - love how magical urs is so far

[bluemonika]

ow man...i already started on the drawing and now i see the briefing changed :( hmm well i do like what i have to far actually altough i focussed more on the athmosphere and the whole picture in general than the character design so it is more an illustration and it is traditional in overal...i hope this doesn't work against me...:(

[Swan]

Cakeypigdog: no worries, just wanted to be sure. First time anyone's ever called me "Alice" that's for sure!

MissyLMG: A mirror reflecting a mirror? Badass! What Daestwen said about the pose though.

M8Y: is the boat tilted? The back side of the boat seems much higher than it should be. I really love the feel of the piece...so atmospheric.

Ryuloulou: love the angel of death! Are you going to fade him back into the shadows or keep him right behind the lady? Can't wait to see this!

Digitallydumfounded: Like this! It does all seem a little crowded over to the left by all that fabric though. (Intentional? Going for a feeling of claustrophobia?) That mirror, especially, looks squished into the boarders.

Great stuff!

[shatteredhalo]

burp.

http://www.chaosworkshop.com/cadotorg/shalottscan.jpg

[Dan!]

updated before posting in the finals thread-

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q81/DECYPL/chow106_decypl.jpg

[Lege1]

Lady shallot gettin super hot for Sir Lancealot. This is what I got to bring to the CA table so far. I am trying out new techniques so forgive the mess. I am pretty sure you can see where things are going. Let me know what you all think. I promise I won't bark at you.

-=Lege

[Sentinel.]

Lege1-if you want to reach the pinnacle of mental masturbation, as daestwen has so elegantly laid out for us, you'll have to add at least three lesbians.

:wink:

[Lege1]

Sentinel13: LMAO!!!! Yeah 3 lesbians and a jester with a bag full of toys and techno music playing in the backround,lol!

[madhatter106]

Lege1, before you get any further, I'd suggest taking stock of where you've placed her neck.

It looks like you're trying to do the whole "arched back" thing, but her neck seems a bit off-center...if you drew a center line, from her belly button up between her cleavage and collar bone and all, you'll see what I'm talking about - it seems the base of the neck is hovering on center with what would be her left breast. It makes what would be her right shoulder extraordinarily long.

I haven't looked at this in reverse (flipped horizantally), but it just seems asymmetrical. It would probably read more if you flipped it...

[ShockWave]

In the stormy east-wind straining,
The pale yellow woods were waning,
The broad stream in his banks complaining.
Heavily the low sky raining
Over tower'd Camelot;
Down she came and found a boat
Beneath a willow left afloat,
And around about the prow she wrote
The Lady of Shalott.


Basically she writes her name on the side of the boat before she sets into the river.

Just getting the pose down before the clothing.

[Lege1]

Swan: Thanks a million for the info no doubt. I made a few more adjustments. I am thinking this is getting more or less where I need to be to start painting.

[DeKal]

lege - this is the best figure ive seen you do so far. i definately agree with mad hatter though..some lasso surgery should fix those problems
and from your update, it really doesnt look like you changed, well, anything at all..but its not posing too much of a problem at this stage at least..flip the image horizontally like hatter suggested..i bet that will help
..also, both hands seem a bit too small..especially the one on her thigh. it looks like the fingers just come off the wrist....id also maybe extend the bottom of the canvas to show that she is kneeling a bit clearer.
love the hair..but the lips seem a bit off..i think the upper lip needs to be bigger.
id also off set the castle a little more and maybe put some more dsk style into it..it looks like the cliche castle you see in story books.
lookin tight so far for the first wip though!

[DigitallyDumbfounded]

Hey, thanks Swan. :)
No, yeah, the mirror got squashed in after scanning the pic, while it's not in my original drawing, still fumbling around with that.

aand... Sentiel13 and Lege1:
You're confusing my maths. :^^;:
3 hot lesbians, or ridiculuosly hot lesbians?
And would the jester count as a midget? :x
Confusion, indeed :thinking:

But I agree with the back comment. And she actually does have a rather cute face.

[DeKal]

muuuch better bro...the right knee is a little funky though and the hand on her thigh still needs some work..

[Lege1]

No doubt D. Still a little bit more work to go and I think it will be good. Check out the latest update up top there. I still have to work the dress in to the new right knee. Let me know.

-=Lege

[Arbu]

have to sketch something nice for her design now

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/044/6/9/Lady_of_Shalott_1_by_Arbu.jpg

[Swan]

Reallllly liking where you're going with this, Arbu. Such lovely textures.

Lege1: Totally agree with the others about the hand and placement of the body in general. You may also want to take a closer look at her leg next to the window. It's looking a little squished.

[Lege1]

Tight work Arbu.

Thanks again Swan I have yet a new update up top there.
much love,
-=Lege

[Swan]

Leg still looks squished.

Rest of her is looking seexay. ;)

Although I'm going to be nitpicky here (nitpicky with LOVE, damnit!) and say that I really don't like her right arm and hand. She's not quite feeling herself up and she's not quite smoothing her dress either. The angle that she's holding that arm at feels awkward and a bit stiff. There, I said it!

I really like her face and expression. She's positively leering. You practically see the naughty thoughts. This is very good.

[ShockWave]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/mcpumper/Untitled-1-1.jpg

[daestwen]

Shock - careful on the length of her thighs. Right now it looks almost as if she's amuptated. The front thigh should be longer than the one further away from us. Right now the other thigh is almost twice it's length, even giving the fact that her hips are more facing us, the back one is still too long, or the front one is facing the wrong direction.

[paac]

wip... hope I don't get eaten this time

[Swan]

It's good experience, though. Helps develop that leathery thick skin. ;)

Like the WIP, Paac. Only have two real comments, more like cautions -- one is that her face is so much lighter than the rest of her skin that it looks like she's wearing greasepaint (since theoretically all of her is in the same shadow) and two...well, okay, I guess this isn't a caution as much as a question. Why is she so far over to the left? I'm not saying that this is wrong or bad, it's just an interesting compositional choice. Because of the brightness of the world seen through her window, the eye pretty much slides right off the Lady herself and follows that window outside to Lancelot's silhouette. From a psychological perspective, that really works as far as reflecting how she herself may be feeling, so I'm reluctant to denounce the choice straight out, but on the other hand, if you want your viewer to really be looking at HER, I think it detracts, you know?

But maybe keeping the focus out the window (as a symbol of her own longing) is exactly what you're going for, in which case, good job. :)

[DeKal]

paac - i actually like that. keep her in dark values like shes in the shadows. also, im sure u will, but straighten up that wall edge..good direction

lege - nice but i dont like the angle you have the composition on..she looks like shes in the leaning tower of pisa. and i agree with swan about the arm and hand..also...the other hand is missing a thumb and the fingers still seem to come off the wrist.....but that see-through dress seems to be coming along nicely.

[ShockWave]

daestwen - I actually had someone sit like this while I drew it but I completely agree. I changed the posture from what you told me. The front leg is facing towards the viewer and its going underneath the back leg which is why it looks shorter than the back leg.

[paac]

swan - good points, just read them right now, I'll see what I can do tomorrow. But yeah, the composition is intentional. She is kinda hiding, you know? She wants to look but cant because of the magic. I'm thinking about maybe putting like magic runes on the stones or something like that.

dekal - thanks, yeah, I'll work on that

This is as far as I got tonight...

[Swan]

That looks fairly awesome, Paac!

[Tommoy]

I like the idea of her fleeing for the carpet.
WIP:

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t19/Tommoy/Sharlot1k.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t19/Tommoy/Sharlott3k.jpg

[StephenMReed]

well this isn't really done done but i dont think i can spend anymore time on it this week.
From her tower the Lady of Shalott spies Lancelot and is happy if only for an instant.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a346/smreed/shalottweb.jpg

[daestwen]

daestwen - I actually had someone sit like this while I drew it but I completely agree. I changed the posture from what you told me. The front leg is facing towards the viewer and its going underneath the back leg which is why it looks shorter than the back leg.

Okay, then it's the costume that's throwing the eye off, because the way that it is laying, it looks pointed in a more parallel direction to the other leg. Sometimes, even when taking from life, you have to fudge a little bit just to make sure that the image looks like it works. Even if it's technically *right*, that doesn't mean it looks right.

[blumarling]

just a very starting wip.
Please someone can tell me if anatomy is ok?
I hope to finish it...

[JessiBean]

Well then... some very nice progress going on, and good crits. Not sure I have too much to add...

StephenMReed - maybe tone down those shadows, they seem awful harsh, especially on that white dress. And consider your light source, she seems to be illuminated from parallel/underneath almost, but the glow in the sky comes from the upper right.

paac - like the improvements, though that wall bothers me in how it completely bisects the image (right now makes my eye go right to the empty white space in the sky) maybe some interest there or some elements to give height to the landscape on the right side/balance out the left side.

Tommoy - very nice beginning... the basic proportions and values look good (maybe the face seems a little flat, but that could just be because it's early), be interested to see how this develops with color.

Shockwave - I agree with Daestwen that the legs look awkward, but I think the overall proportions need some tweaking here really. Her head seems large and the torso seems squat and wide. also, the arm held up has a really long upper arm and short forearm. Even if you are going for a more ample figure, she should have some more height to her, length in her legs, arms, etc. If you have a reference, scrutinize it closely, if not - get one! and look at it closely. And keep going, it has potential.

Arbu - I love this almost exactly as it is. Curious to see where else it goes. Watch out that she is the same height as the tip of the boat, one needs to be taller than the other (I would elongate the boat so it's not parallel with her head)

Lege1 - you've got some good crits in here, and you're making some progress. I would just recommend being really careful with that anatomy. She seems a little small for her head, the arm on the left seems too long, etc. Def. go back to your reference and check. Also, get some good ref on the fabric folds, see how they would drape over a person and try to follow that.

DECYPL - I love seeing others' development process, and your rendering is starting to come along nicely. I would watch some proportions, like the bottom half of her face - it seems to slope off to the left. Flip it and check the proportions, and keep going! :teeth:

shatteredhalo - this has some big anatomy issues (her face proportions are off, her lower half seems squished) Check around for a reference (this pose shouldn't be too hard to find) and see if you can't straighten her out. Also, she and the mirror are about the same size and are competing in the composition. I would make the mirror a scooch smaller. Good expression, work it out :teeth:

DigitallyDumbfounded - I can see where you're going, and it's a good idea. But the rendering/drawing are off. Some good ref on fabric folds would help here - if you are indicating tapestry do note it will be stiff and will not fold and flow in the watery way you've described, if it is something like curtains/hanging fabric (ie - in Waterhouse's paintings like Fair Rosamund: http://www.jwwaterhouse.com/paintings/images/waterhouse_fair_rosamund.jpg ), they wouldn't be as stiff, but they will still have more shape/form. When in doubt, drape some sheets over a chair or a stuffed animal and draw what you see. Also note, her reflection is incorrect, her face is level with her chest where from this straight-on viewpoint, it should be even with her head.

ryuloulou - I dig the central composition and design, it's coming along nicely. I think the left half of her face is a little high/wide for the other half - just check those proportions.

m8y - I like the figure, though the composition of her being sort of centered in the boat which is sort of centered in the picture plane is a little static. I think in your rendering if you give some more excitement to the textures around her/on her, it can save this one (check back to Waterhouse's Lady of Shalott - it is a very static composition, but it is active in terms of textures)

Swan - lovely piece, it flows nicely, very elegant. I do wonder if the face is getting a little squished/lost? and the only other thing I might change are the feet... they seem like a little afterthought that leads you right off the canvas, perhaps elongate the dress to cover that little bit and let that fabric flow into the water carry the eye back into the picture plane. Keep going, it looks great!

Jason Snair - I am becoming such a fan of your work, and this one looks to be no exception, love the painting and the design of the boat. The figure is the only thing that seems off, she looks like she's got the bottoms of her legs chopped off, she can't be in such deep water right there on the shore I don't think - maybe make her smaller and taller? And indicate the water around her dress if she is meant to be standing in the river. Can't wait to see more!

Daestwen - digging the linework and the spin on the story. Only thing I see right now is you have a tendancy to make the characters' heads seem a little large for the bodies which makes the figures seem kind of short and squat. Some tweaking on the anatomy will do wonders, and I think this is awesome, looking forward to more... :^^:

PoshSpice - The one you chose does fit the brief nicely (though I'm hoping the other one makes it too, you do sassy heroines so well) Wish I had something terribly constructive to say, but I'm just excited about the lighting on this one -- especially where it's coming through the trees. Lovely...


A little bit of WIP from me (not the whole composition, just a crop, promise... I didn't forget the 3/4 rule)... just experimenting with painting techniques, I suppose. And feeling the warm fuzzies of being Waterhouse inspired this week. *Hoping* I can finish in and around working out my move and packing...

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[shatteredhalo]

JessiBean: I thought there was something off about how it looked overall. I'm also not too pleased with her face, I'll see if I can't get it all figured out tomorrow. Thanks for the advice!! :D

[platypus_green]

First sketch. Composition is a bit boring, so will be changing quite a bit.
Thinking maybe I should make it a full figure drawing and add the feet, might make it more obvious that she's pacing towards the window.

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8311/02to0.jpg

[Lior Schiller]

My WIP so far.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1174/shalott11fp2.jpg


There are some really great stuff here.
And ryuloulou, draw back the leafs and stars! it was so pretty in the first wip.

[DigitallyDumbfounded]

Tipa: that left (our left) leg is really, really long. But I dig the composition!!

Shockwave: I agree on the other comments and I think what's distracting me is the proportion of her torso towards her arms. It looks like she needs more torso and hips, I think.

Thanks a bunch Jessi! I should have googled "Tapestry" right away. I in fact didn't know for sure what it even was. :bashful:
And that reflection was supposed to be Lancelot, but I kicked it because I thought that the composition was already crowded enough on the right, so I hope that it's better now.
I'll try give her a bit of a detached, resignated expression.
Still not really getting the fabric right. :^^;:

[JessiBean]

DigitallyDumbfounded - big improvements! the composition is looking better, as is the fabric (don't neglect her dress, now, you've proven you can do better, push it all the way :^^: )

[platypus_green]

Enlarged the canvas to do a full body. Body proportions still need some tweaks.
I think I will enhance the room perspective to give the image a little more depth.
Room also needs more elements in it, as it's looking a little bare an boring now. Maybe some dried hanging flowers, a table and things like that.
As for the loom. I don't know what one looks like, so improvised something. I'll do some research and update that to a more accurate one soon.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8172/04hy9.jpg

[DigitallyDumbfounded]

Oh, god. What was I thinking! :nohope:
This is a pain to render and my third attempt, because it got wayy to dark.

[platypus_green]

digitallydumbfounded: Working from large to small details has worked well for me so far. I find it a lot easier to start with a very large brush then work my way down brush sizes when there is little more I can do with the current brush. Also colour picking of nearby areas allows the image to have matching lighting colours.

[Felicia]

Here is my rough sketch. There is some really nice work so far!

[Cynbad]

http://www.cynthiacummensart.com/images/sketchbook/Shalott.jpg

Just a thumb, and my first for this. I want to add more depth to the room behind her. I never read this poem before and found that I loved it! I've really enjoyed this process of learning so far in this exercise. It's exciting to watch everyone's drawings and idea's develop. So..thanks from a CA newbie:)

[Saiya-chan]

Damn nice work already everyone.

Oh platypus_green it could be me, but i have the idea her legs are a bit to short

[ShockWave]

I appreciate all the comments, very helpful. I hope this is closer to what it should look like.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/mcpumper/Shalott.jpg

[ikuru]

Dekal, Im really liking that one.

[Benjamen Christ]

heres my wip. its been a while since i posted some work

[ArtFish]

Christ: some funky stuff going on there o.O nice. All i have to say is that at the moment it sort of looks like she isn't in the boat, but it might just be due to the fact that she has is more rendered than it is at the current time

i'd love to comment on everyone's stuff but it's late, but great looking work so far

[Bravemaina]

here's a wip.. don't think i'll be able to finish it.. late here as usual.. you guys are fast.. amazing work everybody..

[seba_boi]

Looking lovely POSH (as usual)... Very nice flow of the lines and action which is better than your second sketch...


Bitch in a boat, I'm on it. :P
j/k

Made my day... Hehe...

[mark malone]

Late to this one again!!

Some great entries so far...Poshspice looking good!!

Here is my wip so far:

[kayness]

cool stuff but I don't think I can do this week's entry either. go everyone!

[bluemonika]

here's a cropped part of my submission. this is the last part that needs to be done...the boat itself and the lady herself..her hands are not fully done yet....she's quite a hand full @_@

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/bluemonika/ladyoftheshallot.jpg

oh yeah and what that grey thing hanging above her is supposed to be will be clear in the final drawing :D

[blumarling]

an other update....
a lot of things to change i know... Mybe there is something wrong in her face... mmmm

[Daray]

After a long long absence from CHOW. I was going to come back this week after seeing this one. Hopefully I can get something finished for this, I'm still awfully paint / colour shy however, So we'll see. I had never even understood this poem, but I remember seeing the painting by Waterhouse when I was a kid, and thought 'I want to paint like that when I grow up!' :sungod:

[Mirana]

Guess I'll try a WIP post this week...

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Had to put o' Lance in there. Used Old English for her name, translating "Shalott" as best I could from what I learned of OE a few years back.

[mark malone]

Progress pic:

[Sentinel.]

Mark Malone: I like it so far, but her features are a little off. Her eyes don't quite line up with the rest of her face. If you flip it horizontally in PS you'll see what I mean. :)

[mark malone]

Thanks Sentinel....I'm doing this in the free version of OpenCanvas 1.1 which is limited in what it can do, I'll have to wait towards the end before I can take it into CS2 to rejigg things...thanks for the heads up though didn't spot that!!

[Maaiker]

I'm a total newbie to Chow but here's my WIP, not sure if I'm going to finish it tho, I kind of made it to hard for myself... Any kind of advice / critique is very welcome.


http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g274/ebilbird/Charlot.jpg

I wanted her to look a tad doubtful about herself. She has realized she made a mistake by looking out of her window and now has to run from the only place she knows into the big bad world. I can imagine she must have felt rather unsure and fearful. I hoped it would make her more of a person we could relate to instead of a ice queen.

-x- Maaiker

[Draixe]

Just the initial sketch for me so far. Lordy, I hope I can finish this sucker on time... :yayca:

[Saiya-chan]

okay my wip alot will probably change ;3
dunno only if i should change her head (maybe like she is looking over to the window)

AGHHH to much homework >.< evilll

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[KWhite]

Final:

http://www.kawais-domain.com/Arts/Chow106_TheLadyofShalott_KWhite.jpg

[haroldfay]

You guys took it sooo seriously...

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1751/img082lu2.jpg

It will never make it to the polls, but, hey, ChOW is about fun!

[Saiya-chan]

You guys took it sooo seriously...

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1751/img082lu2.jpg

It will never make it to the polls, but, hey, ChOW is about fun!


HAA OMg this one is sooo cool 'fishing lady of Shallot' ;3 great

@ KWhite: very nice, he if you want to make her just before she died, maybe you could draw her hand like she is trying to reach out for one last time

keep up the great work all

[m8y]

Swan: yeah the boat is tilted slightly, like your piece btw.
Jessibean: I know where your coming from, hoping its offset by the some other points of interest in the final.
posh: love the early colours. so much life in the face already! /jealous.
wip updated page 3 btw

[ShockWave]

DeKal: You might want to add some ripples and lily pads in the river. I think if you add wildlife in the forest that it won't take the focus off of her. Deer drinking from the river or just running in the background. I know you're not finished but just something to think about.

[keyu6215]

guess this will be my first
chow attempt...should be interesting

[cowboy surfer]

This is a bit of a play around... not sure if I will finish, loads of working this weekend... anyway wanted to post what I had to see what people thought.

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Some great stuff everyone, will try to crit more in the voting.

[Jason Snair]

update: just began laying in the character, so that's still pretty basic, but she will get much more detailed.

here's what I'm going for. The castle and the boat are creating a symbolic "lock" for the character. The vertical lines of the castle and bow of the boat, as well as the wind, give the illusion of a strong force that the character cannot be overcome...creating a sense of urgency and desperation as well as helping the narrative of the story.

[S.C. Watson]

FINALS THREAD IS POSTED (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=118496)

Ciao,
~Oreg.

[Southwick]

Well, not much time this week, but hopefully this is an improvement over last week so far.

[DeKal]

good looks shock..

heres what i ended up with.

[Southwick]

Really like how that turned out DeKal!

[Wollstonecraft]

Trying to get one done for this round (I only get about 1.5hrs a night so hopefully I can do it)... people's works are great so far! Great job Dekal, I am not crazy about the stylized smoke, but I am not familiar with your style so maybe it is a part of all your work... (I hope you don't mind me saying, I'm used to giving open crits from art school, but that was a few years back, and I haven't been drawing much myself so...:( I really love the POV that you chose, and the woman is great.

Hopefully someone can give me a crit of the body.... i feel like it's WAY off, but can't pin why, I keep adjusting <sigh> :) help! maybe i just need to start over... I hate the sketch phase until i get it right.

http://www.leisu.net/paintings/sketcheyshallot.jpg

OR here is a less developed second idea: her pressing herself against a mirror touching her beloved Knight (lustily?)

http://www.leisu.net/paintings/lady2.jpg

[Mirana]

Wollstonecraft - Her left shoulder is out of socket, her lower arms are too long and her wrist is twisted. Try flipping your canvas to see the errors. The lower half looks good...referenced from some Neo-Classical stuff? 'Cause she's got some plump hips and ankles. ;)

[bluemonika]

okay...this might be a stupid question but...is it also okay to have a horizontal entry? i think i saw a few other people who posted drawings that are horizontal...

[Swan]

I can't imagine that would be any kind of problem, bluemonika. Several of the entries are horizontal, and I didn't see anything in the rules about entries needing to be vertical. Named a specific way? Yes. Vertical? No.

[bluemonika]

ah okay :) got it

[tsujni]

wip

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh319/tsujni/Shalottcopy1.png

[Swan]

Cowboy Surfer: Really cool graphic feel. Lance's hand seems a little strange though...flatter than I'd expect from his position.

Jason Snair: love the feel of the piece and how you're thinking through your intentions on it. You may want to take another look at that boat though: we're seeing the back of it (as well as the benches) straight on but the front's at an angle.

DeKal: love the atmosphere. Just love it.

Wollstonecraft: I hear ya on the sketching. I'm the same way. Honestly I don't know what I ever did before "lasso" and "undo" became part of my art vocabulary. Like Mirana said, you should take another look at her arms.

Tsujni: wild WIP. The perspective is feeling a little weird. Is that an optical illusion or the boat actually bending a little in the middle? I'm not sure, but you may want to take another look at it.

[tsujni]

Tsujni: wild WIP. The perspective is feeling a little weird. Is that an optical illusion or the boat actually bending a little in the middle? I'm not sure, but you may want to take another look at it.

I see what you mean, the highlights on the spilling water at the lower left of the boat are unbalancing it. thanks

[Daray]

right here goes, this is my comeback piece. I hope lol! :p This is obviously still just the WIP, but Im going to have her fleeing a little after she realises her mistake of looking out through the window instead of the mirror. Im going to have the window on the left, the mirror on the right, and probably an image of Launcelot there. Bit of an akward lighting at the moment, kinda wanted it to be like firelight or something. But I really really struggle with colours :p

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[Martheart]

Here's my wip! The fatal moment she looks out of the window... crits are welcome!! Good luck drawing :)

[ArtbyWard]

Wow really beautiful works everyone! Heres mine :)

Any crits are always very much appreciated!

[cowboy surfer]

arthemis ix - great composition.
dekal - Am I reading it wrong or is she naked on top! Loving the soft feel to your entry this week, particularly the trees in the background.
tsujni - if her knees and hands are not covered then i think her stomach should be as it would sit lower... do we know why her boat is sinking?/
wollstonecraft - personally like the second sketch better... anatomy wise the main thing that jumps out for me is her waist is too high up, her torso should be longer.
southwick - lovelly pose, look forward to seeing its progression.
jason snair - great use of the old symbolism... the left side of the boat doesnt line up with the front, it looks like it comes further forward than the bow does.
horoldfay - good pencilling and a sense of humour... boat seems a little too short to me if i was to be picky.
kwhite - very nice use of view, good anatomy, both ends of the boat are lopsided though.
saiya-chan - great sketch, loads going on... will you finish! I hope to see more.
Draixe - awesome pencilling... I hope the colours are as nice.
maaiker - nice idea, i think that the feet fade away too quickly, good effort at foreshortening though.
mark malone - great tones, particularly like her mirror chair, will we see colour?
mirana - beautiful sketch, love all of it... look forward to seeing how you handle the torch light.
bluemarling - feet and hands are too small... great dragon mirror.
bluemonika - coming along well, her right forearm seems just a bit too chunky for the rest of her features though.
bravemania - hard to tell too much so far.
christ - the expression on her face is awesome, not sure about the bocken glass? above her though.
shockwave - a solid sketch and good composition.
cynbad - nice pencils, looking forward to more.
felicia - wonderful drawing and composition, bring on the colour!
digitallydumbfounded - nice loom! And good drapery.
platypus green - coming along well, although the ligh isnt up to the standard of your last piece...yet!
tipa - nice 'wench' outfit, not sure the angle is helping your composition though.
jessi bean - loverly skin tones, hard to say much more with this snipit.
stephanmreed - liking the costume and landscape but she seems far to happy to be looking outside.
tommoy - great action shot, colours looking a little too bright.
paac - loving it, looks sad and lonely.
arbu - good looking thumbnail, boat looks the wrong shape to me, did you use reference?
lege1 - great improvement of the shoulder, she looks a little too horny for my liking though, a bit playboy bunny if you will.
decypl - great face, need to see more.
shatteredhalo - good pencils, legs look too short at the mo.
ryoloulou - awesome, love costume, love angel of death.
issylmg - hard to say much so far.
m8y - the far side of the boat doesnt line up with the one closest to us.
tydal - she looks a bit to happy for me.
swan - awesome love it.
hapaxlegomenon - so far so good, hard to say more at this stage.
daestwen - beautiful and tragic.
posh spice - fantastic, that face! keep it coming.
verastugui - nicely stylized, look forward to seeing more.

[The Whistler]

Ooookaaay I'm into a very VERY late start. Doubt I'll make it but I'll give it a try, here's the sketch


ryuloulou, I love yours, Posh, great work also, Swan, love it.

Gotta hurry up.... :^^;: :$

[Wollstonecraft]

Wollstonecraft - Her left shoulder is out of socket, her lower arms are too long and her wrist is twisted. Try flipping your canvas to see the errors. The lower half looks good...referenced from some Neo-Classical stuff? 'Cause she's got some plump hips and ankles. ;)


Thank YOU ALL for the great crits, I'm working on it now!

[Lior Schiller]

DigitallyDumbfounded : I fixed the leg, but i don't think i'll make it to the deadline =/ and, dig? what do you mean? XD

cowboy surfer and DigitallyDumbfounded, Thanks for the comments =D

[tsujni]

*SNIP*
tsujni - if her knees and hands are not covered then i think her stomach should be as it would sit lower... do we know why her boat is sinking?/
*SNIP*


Even if her back was forced into an arch by a supposed hidden seat? :) Her boat is sinking because she no longer needs it.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh319/tsujni/pose-problem.png

[Lege1]

I appreciate everyones critiques indeed. I don't feel to pinpoint certain thanks simply because I approached this challenge without a reference and that's why there is so many mistakes in my anatomy. I like to try and do things without references not because I feel I am the best artist in the world but I like to really press my limits, plus I really don't work from reference that great. Weird? Yes! But that's the way it is for me now in my life of art. Anyway I've made a few adjustments and plan on bringing this to a rather speedy close. I will get back to better referencing in future CHOWS. Thanks for all the crits though and still feel free to say as you wish about the illustration. I'll be posting again soon. =)
much love and some awesome entrees up indeed,
-=Lege

[Aly Fell]

tsujni - The back arch doesn't bother me. I like the emphasis on the body shape. And the red lips and pink face are great! Fab composition.

[cowboy surfer]

Even if her back was forced into an arch by a supposed hidden seat? :) Her boat is sinking because she no longer needs it.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh319/tsujni/pose-problem.png

Ha Ha touche mon amie (must be said in a very over the top swash buckling accent)... some very nice reasoning... let me re-phrase: her stomach is placed beautifully considering the seat beneath her, well done!

[DigitallyDumbfounded]

Ok, after some nasty PS crashes ( I am not whinhing...just a little :^^;: )
this is the state it's currently at. Will try some more polishing tomorrow and then hope to be posting it in the right way. :)
Uhm, I don't need to outside host this, as far as I can see. Is that right?
And thanks for all the useful crits here!! :^^:
I mean, from everyone, for everyone.
I'll defintely be participating more often here, this is soo helpful.

[tsujni]

tsujni - The back arch doesn't bother me. I like the emphasis on the body shape. And the red lips and pink face are great! Fab composition.

Thanks, I saw yours over in the final thread - just beautiful.

[tsujni]

Ha Ha touche mon amie (must be said in a very over the top swash buckling accent)... some very nice reasoning... let me re-phrase: her stomach is placed beautifully considering the seat beneath her, well done!

:)

I'd agree with Swan on Lancelot's hand.

[The Whistler]

Ohhhh... I just spent about 8hrs on this thing and it's mainly done. I have yet to take care of the arch... I'll do that tomorrow...

[Zachro]

Here's my current WIP, hopefully I'll get a chance to finish it tomorrow. Additionally it's my first digital piece and my first piece posted on this site. It's a triple threat
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crits appreciated. Thanks!

[Wollstonecraft]

That looks great Whistler - I can't wait to see the final!

Zachro: It's looking great, I love the water... her right arm hand feels likei it may be really long, I think her wrist would be just below the water line... and her leg feels a bit short (what happend to the right leg, or a knee sticking up?)

DigitallyDumbfounded: I love your cloth/folds... great fabric... maybe her legs are a bit short though/thighs


here is my WIP, I don't think i'll get 'er done by tonight... i was searching for that moment of self pity before she climbs into the boat.

http://www.leisu.net/paintings/coloredshallot.jpg

[HapaxLegomenon]

Update on my piece. still WIP.

[ArtbyWard]

here's my second wip before I finish it, any crits?

Jessi, Posh, bluemonika, Swan your finished pieces look really beautiful! :sungod:

[Wollstonecraft]

Lalilulelo: good robot-bitch in a boat!

[Lalilulelo]

Thanks I was afraid I wouldn't finish in time!

[The Whistler]

I'm finally done...

Wollstonecraft - thanks :) oh, and... shouldn't her dress be white? I ask because I've made the same mistake, I also made it green but luckily my brother warned me before I completed it :)

[bluemonika]

@icemoon: thank you very much. it is a bit of a pity that i wasn't able to work it out better but maybe i will continue to polish it for myself :) everybody else's pictures are coming along great as well :)

[Vulgar`]

WIP

http://www.clevercrow.com/boromir.jpg

[Aly Fell]

Looking good Vulgar. You might want to lose the beard though...

[Wollstonecraft]

Whistler, you are right... it was a moment of weakness at 2 am! ha!

[Daray]

I think this is my final. And I hope it fits the criteria. This is just after she realises the mistake she made and is turning to flee. Hopefully I haven't misinterpreted the poem. eep! :\

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Some gorgeous entries into the finals. My favourites so far are Swan, Poshspice (god, stop being so godlike already! :cheerleader: ) and bluemonika.

Jessi I love where yours is comming from, but I cant help but feel that this isn't your best piece concept wise. Sowwi :(

Decypl I like the concept of yours, its rendered nicely, although I think you didn't need to add in the strands of thread, they are a little confusing at first :)

IceMoon, I really love the style yours is created in, and I think you've pulled it off well. :)

[ArtbyWard]

Vulgar: that made me laugh
Daray: thanks :)

Heres my final

[Martheart]

Okay, posted my final in the finals thread, some cool drawings there. I really loved Bluemonika's piece, the style reminds of Odin Sphere (you know that game?). Beautiful! Jessibean's was also very cool, the face is so delicate... Swan and Poshspice, great work! Everybody good luck drawing, I'm excited to see all the final drawings. :medusachow:

[ryuloulou]

I've finished mine...

but, when I was working on it, I started to think about something else, so I've made two of them.
I'm not sure about wich one i am going to choose.
I was thinking about the one in the boat (so original)
anyone has a comment?

http://hansstephanie.free.fr/shallot1.jpg
http://hansstephanie.free.fr/shallot2.jpg

[Aly Fell]

ryuloulou - I personally like the one in the boat. They both work really well, but the boat image is a bolder composition and has more emotional impact. It also doesn't use a secondary 'motif' to suggest death, and is self contained. :)

[Jason Snair]

just...about...done. I had to abandon the other one...there just wasn't enough focus on the character.

[Swan]

Ryuloulou & Poshspice: *nod* I agree, Poshspice, although you worded it better than I would have. I was trying to come up with an answer that was more than just "first one has pretty light."

Sure, a ton of us drew her in the boat, but none with the approach you're taking here. It's all you, no question.

[Saiya-chan]

Here is my wip *already posted it in the final tread* it's not really finished, but i posted it anyway.

I tried something diffrent this time, but i'm not so very happy with the out come. maybe some of you have some tips on what i could to beter next time.

Great work all,
greets Saiya

http://www.saiya-chan-com.nl02.members.pcextreme.nl/_lossebestanden/CHOW%23106_Saiya-chan.jpg

[ShockWave]

Lost a day yestderday from a stomach flu but I'm back on track.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/mcpumper/Shalott-1.jpg

Going to tighten up everything, just posting my current progess.

I like the new entries so far.

[ryuloulou]

poshspice & swan: thx for the advice. It confirms what I was thinking.
Plus, the "angel of death" one was too central. It always works, but It's the easyest way and it lacked some dynamysm.

thx again

[cowboy surfer]

Well here is my 'experiment' this week... any thoughts on how it's turned out?

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[candyjanney]

Due to unforseen events this week I won't get my piece done in time but I'm still going to finish it. Here's what I did first draft. The mirror is more or less a placeholder for when I put a nicer lookign one there but I really wanted to catch the Lady just as she breaks the rules of the curse and looks out the window.

[KWhite]

Update: final on page 5.

Wish I had more time T_T

[Stephan_R]

Mine's going to be a photo-finish if I even get it done... and I smiled to see it's very similar to ryuloulou's :) cheers! (and I love the one in the boat as well, both are great) I'km really trying to be more photo real or classical... it could be a complete bomb YESSSS

[Lege1]

Alright so I finished. I am sure not all of you will agree in full with my anatomy and that is fine. As I stated before I chose to challenge myself to do something like this without a reference. I am happy with the way it came out and I hope you all are too. Still feel free to let me know things that will help me besides using a reference,lol. I pursued an illustration based around the curse that comes over the lady. This was an awesome Chow and there is too many good entries to even start giving props. Awesome gals and guys!

much love,
-=Lege

[humboldt squid]

I've finished mine...

but, when I was working on it, I started to think about something else, so I've made two of them.
I'm not sure about wich one i am going to choose.
I was thinking about the one in the boat (so original)
anyone has a comment?

http://hansstephanie.free.fr/shallot1.jpg
http://hansstephanie.free.fr/shallot2.jpg

I know you've already posted the first one in the finals thread, but I like the second a lot more. They're both equally well done, but the second stands out a lot from the other entries, but the first kinda blends in with the rest.

[Arbu]

didnt finish mine ARG!

ryuloulou: I like te boat one a lot

[Lege1]

Ryuloulou: I really like your second illustration as well. It's a really hard decision because I like the over aesthetics of your second piece but I feel the first one follows the poem more. I think you need to toss a coin on this one. All in all I really like the second one. =)

[S.C. Watson]

CHOW 107 IS POSTED (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=118648)

Poll for 106 will be posted tomorrow evening.

Ciao,
~Oreg.

[Stephan_R]

Well I pushed myself to be more realistic this time...

http://www.steveroyer.com/sketching/chow_106.jpg

[Swan]

And I do believe you succeeded. How lovely.

[Define.]

here's what I could not finish, but I thought I'd show ya my progress anyhow. too bad really! lots of beautiful entries. I loved this topic.

[Wollstonecraft]

Stephan R: I think yours is amazing, best piece in my eyes! I just LOVE it!

I was thinking today about my piece, and I have never done a "person" in photoshop before (sketches is all, first time w/skin etc) and I learned SO MUCH from this one sketch... it looks nothing like what I wanted it to in my head, i realize her eyes are too small, her skirt does not have enough fabric in front of her etc. etc EYES OY!!! haahah, but i am SO GLAD that this site spurred me on to make a drawing and start using photoshop in this way! YAY (it's just an honor to be a part.. sniff) LOL

[mark malone]

Just never gonna finish this on time....so I think it will join the pile of abandoned works for CHOW.

[kayness]

seems like a popular topic, this one :D

[Southwick]

Still not that many in the finals thread though.

[Define.]

malone, too bad you didn't finish. that is beautiful!