EOW#64 Forward base camp of a winter campaign

[chaosrocks]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/chaosrocks/EOW2.jpg

EOW#64 Forward base camp of a winter campaign

The historical era is up to you. REquired elements include:
-Military encampment.
-Winter

DUE Septemper 7th

Description required
I will accept any medium.
Now... concept!

[Gaius]

OoooOO Chaos!
* tips hat *

Watch the entries flood in for this one.

[marak24]

Ooh. Winter should be fun :D

[Tom Garden]

very cool!!! Bout time i started some enviros, might give this one a stab! Plus i'm playing age of empires at the moment so that will inspire me no doubt hehe

[grenogs]

sounds interesting, does it have to be an actual historical event or can it be made up fantasy?

[ikuru]

PLZ Mistress Chaos, explain a bit further, does it have to be something historical? Could it be fantasy or futuristic too? Maybe on another planet altogether? And by campaign. is it enough to show military tents, tanks, planes and such or should it be obvious that there is a special activity going on there?

I like the snow and army stuff... Might give this a try if I get the time...

[chaosrocks]

um
left it open on purpose

doesn't have to be historical, can be fantasy
doesn't have to be earth

Has to be winter
Is an environment so action does not have to be taking place.
has to be a military camp.

the rest is up to you
chaos

[Cloister]

Yeah... a warm winter in India... no snow... perhaps a Vampire Lve Role-play-campaign... set in Calcutta, close to the faerie ghetto there...hm, I'll think about this...;)

[ikuru]

thaks Chaos! Sounds just about great to me!

Cloister thats some funny shit right there!
I think eventually the MONKEY MAN (http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/south/05/16/india.monkeyman/) killed thoes dark faeries in calcutta though... or was it delhi?

Im just gonne paint a bunch of Robots hanging out in Goa or something...

[Manuel_Calavera]

Winter is a great theme for artist - it helps to save paints ;)

[chaosrocks]

unless you start on Black as I usually do
:P

[alti]

dude awsome topic, hey tom i'm playing age of empires right now too.
-alti

[Nalot]

This is called Sky Defence. They are towers that can be hooked onto clouds. They keep an eye out for any invaders and also help to fight the airbourne attackers.

FINAL

[grenogs]

nalot i may be wrong here, but would watch towers be classed as an encampment?

[Nalot]

grenogs: Um... Im pretty sure they can be part of an encampment... If not, I will take this picture down and try again... If people will let me know.

[Lot]

This is a Camp, in the Sierra Nevada of Santa Marta in Colombia, the soldiers are equipped whit high tecnology, the cold is very strong, is at night, and the help is about to arrive.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u57/lotiu/eow64lotcopy.jpg

[grenogs]

you may be right, i dont know myself. just when i think of watch towers i think of solid structures around a town or fortress, and not something mobile like a camp. but if there was a way you could show them mobile in the same way blimps or zepelins were, then your probably right.

[Nalot]

Ooh... Just had an idea... thanks! Will make them mobile... Watch the space above!

[Vulgar`]

I remember there was an EOW theme called "Winter Battlefield." It's a cold world out there.

[Justin.]

I'm confused, is there going to be a poll for 63?

[hallo]

http://www.notmybiz.com/files/fb_portfolio/bilder/hallo_eow64_winterbase_final.jpg

Final. But I ain't happy with the outcome.

Background:
The encampment featured in this picture is a terran outpost near the enemy border on the outer belt planet Wolf 9929, where perennial night reigns. Accordingly, the climate on this distant world is harsh - temperature never rises above -50 C degrees.
The main purpose of this forward base is performing long-range scans of the enemy front as well as sending off scouts, spy troops and sabotage commandos.

[chaosrocks]

shut up Justin..it'll happen as soon as I can get to it
Im in chicago
chaos

[Tom Garden]

Alti man!! I should figure out how the hell to do online play! :) but i've only done two levels so far so you might woop me! :)

[Manuel_Calavera]

Yes, Chicago, that explains everything :]

[CeeJay]

More of a large scale base on a high plane at the moment. I still need to add some buildings in the middle ground and some background elements...oh and snow. Composition is pretty simple i hope its not too boring.

[grenogs]

lol ceejay, if you move the guy out of the way, we may be able to see the environment behind him, hehehehe btw.. wrong thread,

[oomgawa]

FINAL

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/oomgawa/1encampment6-1.jpg

The advance encampment holds 50 men maximum,
assigned to keep an eye on, and taunt the city.
The knowledge of the advancing army is known to all
the frightened inhabitants, but the progress up the
glacier is slow, with siege engines often falling
through crevasses.

I am not sure how far or how close to crop this one because it is an environment
concept, but the camp itself is also an environment. hmmm. . .
thoughts?!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/oomgawa/1encampment6crop2-1.jpg

[life on the sofa]

m e h

[Manuel_Calavera]

My first environment entirely made by hand. Before I always used mixed 3d – 2d technique. I have a lot of pleasure making this one and hope to finish it before deadline. As it’s my first env made this way it’s open for yours comments and critique. My point was to find some other colors than white for winter. Aha, and second objective – military camp is not yet completed ;)
WIP:
http://micamic.ovh.org/mixed_pics/winter.jpg

[ikuru]

http://www.ikuru.se/box/army.jpg
If anyone feels they can show me the way when it comes to shadows, Im having problems figuring out the light and shadow on the front side of the pyramid like shape...

[Wandering_Monk]

Hey, guys. I got this WiP i've been sitting on for a few days now. I've been busy updating my website.(which I encourage you all to check out. link is in my signature :bashful: ) I'm not sure if I'm going to keep going this route, but I thought I would share this with you guys and see what you all had to say.

http://marksinclairart.com/misc/winter_basecamp_wip.jpg

Oomgawa, yours is beautiful. Pleeease continue with it:)
Life on the Sofa, this is a very graphical take on the topic. Puts me in mind of curling up and getting into a good graphic novel. I like it :) Dont see any base camp yet though :D
Ikuru, I would do a paint over for you, but I'm heading out in a little bit. I think the shadows on the pyramids should be moved in some more. The pyramid on the right side has some shadow problems on the structure itself, but the ground shadows are okay.

[Matsign]

If you want ideas for winter encampments, look around for some WWII German/Russian Front photographs. That'll pretty much sum up most of the mood and chaos of a forward base.

197252

trenches, bunkers, radio tents, ammo depot, sniper nests, scouting parties, etc.

[grenogs]

i focused a bit too much on the "enviroment" didnt i but meh, the bade will be there eventualy and i will update final later.



its EOW (Environment of the week) need i say more


Ceejay nice to see you changed the image, you got me a little worried then :)

Ikuru your step pyramid shadow is way off, draw some simple waypoint lines from your sun to the corners of all your objects in front, and that should basicly work out all your shadow directions or if you got bryce or some other simple 3d program, build a simple pyramid in there and light it up, so you can get the proper lighting effect, or alternatavly and easier, just get a couple small cubes(match boxes, or even books are better) build it similer to a pyramid and then add some kind of light effect behind, and work from there.

[life on the sofa]

yeah but grenogs what i meant by that was, there wont be much in thw way of a base..:) there will be on in the finished version but not a very big one

[life on the sofa]

updated my image with final on post#28 (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1445093&postcount=28)

[grenogs]

sorry life, i see what you mean now, maybe if you make the image bigger it may help, my images are always 10cmx10cm and 300dpi, and they fill the whole page then, but you need to save them for web in photoshop to reduce the size other wise their at least 4 meg size.

what type of base camp is it? if its some kind of fantasy, then theres nothing stopping you from hading some activity on some of the other cliff tops. that way it'll give the impression of being bigger

[life on the sofa]

yeah, im realy trying to re work , i posted what i called final but its realy acctualy a bad piece, the "camp" bit is pathetic but all i could fit in. im annoyed at myself for letting it get out of hand..the composition is how i intended but i used too much space.


what ive done now is ive cropped it and using the wonders of MS paint moved the cliffsides further apart and opend it back up in photoshop. cant do anything today, im not sure when the deadline is and im back at school tomorrow so will only have the weekend if it isnt already a closed poll by then.


all the same, thanks for your help grenogs:)

[ikuru]

well guys, thought I was going to learn this the hard way, doing it right, with lines etc...
Allso I find 3D aplications to be a real HAssle to work with...
Ive tried Zbrush and Cinema 4D... but like said, what a headache...

Would I be able to do easy shapes like these with Bryce? what version would I need?

Anyhow this is what I did and the instructions I looked at....

http://www.ikuru.se/box/testing.jpg
actually now I see where I went wrong... the pyramid on the right... the angle of the shadow (in the right corner only) should be turned out! and the front panel of it should all be dark... but should there be sunlight hitting it on the top corners?

[gl0gg]

Ok, so here's my five cents or how many there are supposed to be. It is a little sketchy maybe, and I will definitely tighten it up a little if I have the time before deadline.

http://www.joelakerman.se/temp/Untitled-1_small.jpg

The concept then, some sort of creature or device entered the base from within the mountain and laid waste to the entire facility. Only a fraction of the stationed crew survived and pointed the searchlight intended for enemy airplanes on the hole in the ground, hoping to scare off whatever lurks under the frozen ground.

Crits very much appreciated!

Oomgawa - I have no idea why, but somehow I see Arnold as Conan walking around in that enviro of yours =)

[AtlasIves]

ohh life on the sofa im sure ive seen that image befor...

possibly in your sketchbook a good 3months ago...

naughty naughty :)

[grenogs]

ikuru , zbrush isnt realy suitable for this, bryce is perfect for easy shapes like this, and its such a user friendly 3d app, and as a landscape generator its perfect for creating the right shade effect you want. use any version you can get, the setup is basicly the same, just few extra options in the newer versions.

also check this place out, they got all the andrew loois books to download, theres some realy good perspective and shadow studies in a couple of these, but try all the downlad mirrors as not all work.

http://basangpanaginip.blogspot.com/2006/01/successful-drawing.html

[daveneale]

FINAL

Some cool stuff so far.


Ok, *cough, so the emphasis on environment in the one has kind of been a little lost, I just liked the idea of a minimal setup once I got into it :bashful:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1055/1331705555_13d4e70082_o.jpg

in the not so distant future the snow at the north pole has receded far enough for oil to be easily accessible for exploitation-the ensuing claims and counter claims to who owns what has lead to full scale war. A small unit of Norwegian Special Forces sets camp on vantage point where they can survey the underlying plateau; they're forward base camp of [the coming] winter campaign.

[Gaius]

EOW #64 Forward Base Camp of a Winter Campaign

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i179/gmiley/attack_1_004_latest_1_adj_3.jpg


Kanzansky's Journal 24th October 3010

"Six years it took the machines to stablize this hunk of rocks Volcanic activity!
Now dont get me wrong here, I was no fan of the constant earth quakes and lavas flows, but what the big brains up in the enviro station did'nt count on was the cold, and man do I mean COLD!. This planets central heating system has been turned off.
So here we are, constant Winter for heck knows how many years. I wouldnt mind too much, its just that the loneliness eats away at man's soul and his sanity. END"

Kanzansky's Journal 15 November 3010

" Everythings changed here, we now know why the bigwigs were so interested in this planet , Lithium ore. This rock is riddled with it!
Our little Camp has become the number one Military encampment in this area of the system.
The Empire must be worried that somebody might want take this rock from us and use the lithium for themselves, but what does a nobody geologist like me know about these things...." END

[life on the sofa]

gaius.......competition over.:)


..although i wud like to see more :D:P

[ikuru]

Grenogs thanks for the bryce Info and for that link! I'll be sure to investigate and then Im gonne come here and get your asses! ;) Victory Sha,l Be mine!


ohh life on the sofa im sure ive seen that image befor...
I second that.

[timothee]

Fresh out of the oven:
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r146/timdeplace/winter_base3_small-1.jpg

Every winter, the Raalon military setup a winter camp to fend off would be smugglers and enemies, that use the isolated mountains of Aangar to sneak into Raalon's territory. The military post themselves high up in the mountains overlooking the Aangar River, thereby giving them a stealthy position to monitor the province, and defend it if neccesary. The camp usually consists of 30 or so soldiers, manning the 3 gun turrets positioned on the cliff edges. A few soldiers are specialists at reconiscence(?), searching for fresh tracks in the snow. Supplies are helicoptered in, saving much needed time to setup the base. The winter camps have been quite successful at killing and capturing enemies, with only a handfull escaping into the mountains.

[Orori]

Ikuru, I found a couple problems with your shadow construction. Shadow construction is fairly straightforward, though a bryce render might be a good way to learn shadow construction. The ref you used for the construction is correct, for a light other than the sun. For the sun and moon, the shadow vanishing point ("a" in the diagram) should be on the horizon. It also looks like the sun is the main vanishing point for the right pyramid, while a different point is the vanishing point for the left pyramids. Neither v.p. is on the horizon. To find the shadow v.p., drop a vertical down from the sun until it hits the horizon. That's it. Then draw lines from that point and from the sun to each corner of every object, and where they converge will be the corners of your shadows. Er, that shuld be right.

http://studiochalkboard.evansville.edu/lp-shadow.html

good reference

[ikuru]

thanks orori... Im gonne make sure to try bryce out, and your link looks helpfull too... probobly not gonne finish this peace now... Id hate to make some work with of the wall shadows.... have to learn this properly. thanks.

[chaosrocks]

please remember people...this is an environment. the action or characters should not be central to the scene. Gaius its a great pic but its a battle not a camp.

[Gaius]

:}

I have a version without the ship or explosion, then it's a just a view of the military camp. I was trying to show the harshness and isolation of a
Forward base camp of a winter campaign . The angle I chose to describe it and the fact its being attacked I hope adds a little spice to it.

I was hoping the composition leads your eye to the Camp.

I like adding elements , gives nice scale reference and a bit of a dynamic to the enviroment.

* bit of a grey area , when it comes to different interpretations of a topic *

So many ways to approach it. isometric technical design, atmospheric piece and a million other ways to approach any topic.

[grenogs]

gaius if you just make the explosion smaller and the ship further into the distance, your vision will still be there, it just wont be the main focus thats all. sometimes its better to show as little as possible to creat a story rather than shoving it direct in the face.

If you want an element, put some kind of creature in the image, something that has nothing to do with the base itself, but yet fits perfectly as part of the environment.

[ArtZealot]

After the wars, the skys were stained the color of cotton candy for what seemed to be the rest of eternity. An ironic end to such a terrible story...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b337/TheDingusOfSanDiego/Wintry-Clouds6.jpg

p.s- this is my Final piece. (it's my only post with a picture in it and i thought that it was implied that this is my final)

[Nalot]

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1440903&postcount=13

Updated as promised!

[hallo]

Post updated with final. (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1442118&postcount=21)

[grenogs]

artzealot nice looking image , but just a observation, i think you need more colour on your base, basicly reflective colours from the sky and sun. If you give your shadowed area a hint of purple/pink hue and the highlighted areas a sun coloured hue, it,ll creat a nicer and more realistic effect.

[Matsign]

FINAL:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/cqb/EOWWinter.jpg

"The sky finally cleared up. There was no air support, but at least we will see them coming this time. Ammunition is almost gone. The Russians didn't come this morning but we know they'll be back tonight. Our detachment has been holding this outpost for weeks. Defending the supply chain while the PanzerGruppe falls back for fuel. The Capitan says the reinforcements got lost and stumbled across enemy lines. No word back from them yet. It seems as though it snows all year here. Not until recently has snow stopped coming down from those neutral, chilly clouds. The day passes slow, like those old days back at the villa, so long ago. I do miss it. Anything would beat this waiting! The Russians play with us. Mortar barrage here, burst of machine-gun fire into our line. They're waiting until we've got nothing left.

All I know is we're stuck here in our muddy trenches, staring impatiently into that deadly treeline."

[chaosrocks]

Alrighty Folks..

Finish Em up

Remeber

Mark "final"

OUTSIDE HOST PLEASE

K THANKS

[ArtZealot]

one more extra day on this one would be sweet.

[ArtZealot]

I like the idea of having the buildings hook into the clouds, Nalot. It's an interesting idea.

[Simonstalenhag]

FINAL:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b127/simonstalenhag/eow64_simonstalenhag.jpg


The Republic of Norrland is joining the war against the Soviet Empire.
This is a Norrland base camp, somewhere northeast of Övertorneå.


The tents are made of some advanced thermodynamic material that
regulates the temperature of the air around it. They can be used in
both cold and warm environments.

The idea was to have some hi-tech fantastic base camp/soldiers
portrayed in a realistic and spontaneous way like if the image
was a snapshot taken by somebody involved in the scene.

[arttorney]

Ikuru: This is really a "light" suggestion, but I guess that is anti-shadow. With the sun straight behind and low like that the edges of the pyramids and steps that are toward the sun will look better defined by a light edge rather than a dark one. It's sort of like the halo on a figure with back lighting.

[ikuru]

Thanks attorney, Im not sure I get what your saying but, some kind of highlight in the edges right and a bit of "halo" light around. is that it, anyhow I droped this one for now.. and made a kick ass chow instead.. But ill be back...
thanks again.

[oomgawa]

Help!
I just can't see it anymore.
Can someone pick one of these for my final?

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1444054&postcount=27

[Matsign]

did you flip canvas? :P

[Edward B]

Final: (sorry if its too late!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Cerebellum/outpost.jpg

The forward basecamp served as a portable station sampling the environmental conditions and estimating military responses to threats in the area.

[oomgawa]

did you flip canvas? :P

Good point. Guilty of not checking as I went along.
thanks for the advise!

[Zutaiola]

Hi everyone! Forward base camp of a winter campaign FINAL.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1175/1352033540_e184191639_o.jpg

This is a base camp being built for diferent purpouses. Provides the troops with appropiate shelter for the winter, supports them crossing the river and in the latter siege of the position and provides a good defensive outpost if retreat is needed.
During the construcction considerable number of troops would be keeping the river line avoiding danger of being surprised by enemy.

[Nalot]

I like the idea of having the buildings hook into the clouds, Nalot. It's an interesting idea.

Thank you.

[chaosrocks]

for purely selfish reasons I am going to leave this open for 24 more hours
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e181/chaosrocks/eow-basecamp3.jpg

[ArtZealot]

sweet, i needed more time...thx

[chaosrocks]

K 8 hours from now!

rmeber---

1. outside host
2. Mark final

simple
chaos

[Form]

The Mark Of Imaga

By the end of the second nuclear winter, the air was so cold that snow could not fall. Like the eye of a tornado, the world was silent and immobile.

With all but a few remote regions blanketed by electromagnetic radiation in the first nuclear winter, the social and political geography of the world splintered and was set adrift. Fossil fuels were consumed excessively in old, conventional, innefficient devices to keep the major population centers warm. Within ten years, fuels were depleted and the world so damaged that it was unanymously agreed upon that there was not even a faint glimmer of hope remaining. The second nuclear winter was a result of the global implosion of spirituality - the last vestiges of humanity that clung on for survival had run out of consolation in their prayers and meditation, and those who refused to take their own lives began projecting their frustrations onto the remnants of their world. Cities were rocked as warheads and power plants were set alight by the fires of martyrdom.

The Mark of Imaga was the final bomb to go off in the second nuclear winter. Launched from a base deep in Alaska, the bomb sailed up into the stratosphere, catching the light from the cold sun like a dove. Eventually its engines burned out, and it hung like a forlorn tear amongst the clouds, finally turning in a slow cartwheel and tumbling down. It landed in what used to be california, setting off a chain reaction of explosions that rocked the san andreas fault line. The resulting cacophony of global disasters put an end to what was left of life on earth. It was all over in a matter of days. Like the eye of the tornado, the world was once again silent. Silent as it was at the beginning of time.

Silent now, at the end.

http://www.paquette.com.au/images/eow_winterbase.jpg

[chaosrocks]

poll building now
will close thread when Im done..you got about 10 minutes
chaos

[life on the sofa]

The Mark Of Imaga

By the end of the second nuclear winter, the air was so cold that snow could not fall. Like the eye of a tornado, the world was silent and immobile.

With all but a few remote regions blanketed by electromagnetic radiation in the first nuclear winter, the social and political geography of the world splintered and was set adrift. Fossil fuels were consumed excessively in old, conventional, innefficient devices to keep the major population centers warm. Within ten years, fuels were depleted and the world so damaged that it was unanymously agreed upon that there was not even a faint glimmer of hope remaining. The second nuclear winter was a result of the global implosion of spirituality - the last vestiges of humanity that clung on for survival had run out of consolation in their prayers and meditation, and those who refused to take their own lives began projecting their frustrations onto the remnants of their world. Cities were rocked as warheads and power plants were set alight by the fires of martyrdom.

The Mark of Imaga was the final bomb to go off in the second nuclear winter. Launched from a base deep in Alaska, the bomb sailed up into the stratosphere, catching the light from the cold sun like a dove. Eventually its engines burned out, and it hung like a forlorn tear amongst the clouds, finally turning in a slow cartwheel and tumbling down. It landed in what used to be california, setting off a chain reaction of explosions that rocked the san andreas fault line. The resulting cacophony of global disasters put an end to what was left of life on earth. It was all over in a matter of days. Like the eye of the tornado, the world was once again silent. Silent as it was at the beginning of time.

Silent now, at the end.



FUCK.



dude go write a book or something! :P...that is the best concept ive ever seen/read very visual!..NIIICEE..


ohh and the picture aint bad either :P

[ArtZealot]

Note: just updated mine 10 seconds ago...

[chaosrocks]

there are 7 really nice pieces which Are not marked FINAL
This is the LAST WEEK I will take these to POLL

I swear..... next week no matter how killer your piece is IF YOU DO NOT MARK IT "FINAL" or FINISHED"
IT WILL NOT GO TO POLL!!!!!!